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 No.2[Reply]

Featured Threads: Resources: ( >>540 ) Questions: ( >>17126 ) Opposing Views: ( >>14534 )

Asatru Essentials: >>13 Rules: http://jthnx5wyvjvzsxtu.onion/asatru/rules.html

Friends: >>>/fringe/ >>>/cucktianity/ >>>/pdfs/ >>>/zundel/

What is Asatru?

Long before Christianity came to northern Europe, the people there – our ancestors – had their own form of spirituality that influenced every aspect of their culture. One expression of this European spirituality was Asatru. It was practiced in the lands that are today Scandinavia, England, Germany, France, the Netherlands, and other countries as well. Asatru is the original, or native, religion for the peoples who lived in these regions. Nevertheless, Asatru is more than just a religion in the narrow sense of the word. It is our way of being in the world; some of us call it the “Germanic Folkway” to underline this larger concept.

What does the word “Asatru” mean?

It means, roughly, “belief in the Gods” or “those true to the Gods” in Old Norse, the language of ancient Scandinavia in which so much of our source material was written. (A more literal translation would be “gaining experience of the ancestral sovereign gods.”) Asatru is a name given to the religion of the Norsemen, but we use this term to include the spiritual worldview of all the Germanic peoples, not just the Scandinavians.

When did Asatru start?

Asatru is thousands of yeaPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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 No.16635

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 No.19439[Reply]

Do you believe in the gods as influential materially existing deities, or do you just value the ethics/worldview of Germanic (or other PIE) religion?

Have there been any books attempting to comb through different pre-Christian European religions and distill all the ideas contained therein about how we should live in the world as individuals/families/societies?

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 No.19516

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>>19513

>>19515

What is Grimnismal.

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 No.19533

>>19515

Why would a 'powerful spiritual being' need to assume a physical form? And what exactly is a 'spiritual being' anyway?

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 No.19534

>>19533

>Why would a 'powerful spiritual being' need to assume a physical form?

Does it need a reason to if it is capable of doing so?

>And what exactly is a 'spiritual being' anyway?

A being that does not have a material form. Would you expect the gods to made up of actual physical matter like you and me? Obviously not

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 No.19539

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>>19533

Giants have never needed a reason. That's why they must be hammered back into place. Be weary, for Giants come in many forms like in Grottasongr, always inquire into their race, unlike Frodi.

8. "Thou wast not, Frodi for thyself over-wise,

or a friend of men, when thralls thou boughtest;

for strength thou chosest them, and for their looks,

but of their race didst not inquire." -Grottasongr

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 No.19699

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ffs eveyone in this thread are zelous larpers. Imagine not understanding the deeper metaphysical truths within the stories, and instead do like the christians and take them literally like some peasants and þrælar. This is what happens when you read translations instead of reading the actual source in the original language.

The gods are higher kennings that we can only understand with referenceable characters and personifications of said concepts. The stories are written in a way so that we can better understand the deeper underlying Truth behind the inner workings of the world through allegories. These higher Laws/Patterns are expressed in the physical world in the things we see and feel, the physical; That is the physical aspect of the stories. However, that is only so that we can have a baseline for reference when we experience Divine Revelations and experience the Higher; we can then grasp the metaphysical through the physical expressions.

This is why Óðinn hangs on Yggdrasil, the world tree, for nine days and nights, sacrifices himself to himself, falls down screaming and then comes to understand Esoteric Knowledge. The pattern is similar to Childbirth, not because it is Childbirth like some of Vargians like to say, but because the Higher State of Rebirth functions similarily but in a metaphysical manner; it's not that you literally see a tree (or teh placenta!!1!1), but this Movement of falling down this Tree and being Reborn feels similar.

Ever since the conversion of Christianity, and even more so after the reformation, people have been obsessed with the existential question of the Divine. Not only is this spiritually bankrupt, materialism masqerating itself as religion, but it muddles the water of Truth. Instead of trying to understand the Kennings, decipher the Higher Principles presented in the myths, peasants now get a say in how we interpret the myts. To peasants and slaves, the sun is the charriot of Sunna ("the gods are spiritual entities duuuuud"), bringing it to the level of normal spirits ("they are just larger spirits duuuuud"). Religion turns into superstion. In the same manner, naturalists go in the other end just say that the trees and stones are the gods ("gods are just allegories for those physical things duuuud, all ChallengesPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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 No.19104[Reply]

ITT we collect everything related to vocal ritual worship of the gods.

Prayer texts, prayer beads et cetera are all welcome ITT.

http://valhalska.webs.com/prayersandblessings.htm

http://www.northernpaganism.org/resources/prayers-rituals.html

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 No.19272

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>>19271

Go shove some energy crystals up your ass new age faggot.

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 No.19273

Go play GW2 and watch talmudovision you faggot.

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 No.19275

File: 7d13ed2018f1805⋯.jpg (10.86 KB, 350x350, 1:1, scythian mummy facial reco….jpg)

>>19272

>when somebody saves ur picture

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 No.19683

File: 69b5320c07b0b3b⋯.jpeg (84.48 KB, 640x464, 40:29, Fjolkunnugr.jpeg)

I don't like using the term prayer, as begging wasn't considered a good gesture (rude and shameful if anyting). >>19107 is a fine video, it gives a good summary on what people did in the past, with good descriptions of said acts. But personally I find it lacking a crucial thing, as it only looking at the act without reason behind the act. To sacrifice (blóta) is not just to exchange gifts (the act), it is to express that you are opening yourself to the god as a loyal friend. That is essentially the essance of pagan faith (trú), trust and loyalty. You are offering something that is off your self to the god which is to symbolise your trust, and if the god trusts you back, then it will also offer something off itself.

This sort of relationship is antithetical to prayer (biðja), asking without giving. Not only is that rude, but it also gives off the idea that you intend to rely on the subject you invoke, to submit to them and be indebted to them.

I know this might all seem like semantics, but it is important as the mindset you have whilst invoking the Gods is crucial. Don't go in asking for favors, and then look at the activity as a exchange in goods and services. Look at it as a expression of loyalty, as symbolism for opening eachother to one another, and you are expressing it through the act of giving.

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 No.19697

>>19110

Just to make a correction, in Icelandic we don't have "Kåre" (å doesn't exist in our language), but we have Kári (pronounced "Kauri") and he is a wind giant, son of Fornjótr. There's a saying here that if the winds are strong then Kári is angry.

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 No.19681[Reply]

>beautiful white woman

>can breed many white children with her

>save the white race

>fertile and ripe for breeding

>must breed fertile woman

>i love those genetics

>must breed with women

A lot of closet fags in this board.

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 No.19685

>>19681

Me on the left

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 No.19696

>Someone who honors their ancestors and upholds traditions

Or

>Some dude with a personality disorder and stupid mustach who thinks he's some guy from 80 years ago because he has no personality or identity of his own

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 No.19684[Reply]

Anyone else feel a strong connection to the philosophy of Zoroastrianism? I find it more relatable on an instinctive level than other religious faiths.

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 No.19695

What about it do you find interesting?

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 No.13324[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

What should modern pagan temples look like?

As in, if paganism was revived on a very large scale and got popular fast, what would the places of worship look like? Would they take cues from ancient greco-roman? Or just convert cathedrals and churches into temples?

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 No.14270

Christian cathedrals were all built based on the works of famous Roman architects, such as Vitruvius' De Architetura. Of course, the style then evolved and grew to become the gothic style we know.

Christian cathedrals aren't a merit of christianity, but yet another adoption of other Pagan achievements.

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 No.19472

File: 8cbe34f6f1b7828⋯.png (1.21 MB, 8888x8888, 1:1, solstice3.png)

ᛒᚪᛚᛞᛖᚱ ᚪᚻᛖᚦ ᛗᛁᚾ ᛚᚫᛞᛋ

ᛒᚪᛚᛞᛖᚱ ᚪᚻᛖᚦ !

Meditation sigil: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5xEmcECqLg

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 No.19508

>>13688

>the human race is an extension of natural forces, and our architecture should reflect that.

Our architecture can do nothing but reflect us. All we do is a reflection of us. Our buildings need not be literal caves or trees in order for them to be natural, don't be reductive and insulting to our advanced intelligence. Nice dubs though.

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 No.19689

>>13324

It's literally described in Eyrbyggja Saga. I don't understand the confusion or ignorance in regards to nordic temples. Just read the stories ffs.

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 No.19694

>>13331

This is very true. Although, in Iceland it doesn't center so much about trees, but around sacred stones. These stones or stone groves are considered to be the "homes and cities of elves and other nature spirits". Even in the capital (but it is much more common in rural areas of course), you will see some places were there are big rocks untouched, and in many of those cases it is due to this old pagan belief. In the country side, this is even more apparent, and often it is not rocks but mounds (or mound looking things).

It is common superstition that misfortune will fall upon any who disturb them, and so even if a road is being made it will have to go around it. Not many people actually belive this literally, but they still feel deeply attached to these places.

Not too many years ago, there was a road being made that would go over a elven home. Dozens of people that lived there, and even some who didn't live there but had ancestors who did, went there to stop them. And so they did, the roadwork was forced elsewhere.

It is things like this that makes me think that our ways will never truly die and can be reborn, and the only way to truly destroy them would be to completely replace us.

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 No.19420[Reply]

Thoughts on his channel? Has anyone seen his patreon-only live stream on folkish vs universalist?

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 No.19663

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One of the public videos he made on folkish vs universalist.

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 No.19664

>>19663

>>19662

Thank you.

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 No.19668

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He does some truly sacred work in preserving things like this video here for more to see. And for that I will always praise his channel.

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 No.19673

>>19420

He is a clown. He is only "pagan" purely because he believes those were the gods his ancestors worshipped and anybody who watches his stuff is still a manchild pleb at best, who is incapable of doing academic and folk research themselves and only wants to know about pagan European religions because of the same reason as his: Gods of my ancestors. Which, in its raw nature, is an absolutely right thing to do but because these sort of people have very little interest in the actual sacred teachings themselves, these people often don't get the essence of these sacred knowledge and end up being huge idiot larpers such as this guy and Vikernes. Which is also why he is obsessed with genes and prehistoric cultures and hunter gatherers etc. He is a plebian, lying, whining insecure manchild who makes ridiculous presumptions a lot and then provides very little, "proof" while never talking about the null results. Connecting dots is an essential part of these works but half of his presumptions are baseless and have only been presented to confirm his bias. And quite frankly I believe his works have done far more damage to the community than good.

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 No.19693

>>19673

You use a lot of words but say very little.

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 No.19636[Reply]

Modern Norse Paganism is Wakanda-tier and here’s why:

>They somehow think Norse religion is a pan-white unifier despite actual Norse religion is very ethnic or tribal centric

>They get the majority of their sources from either Christian monks or Roman record-keepers which is the equivalent of a Christian getting his or her source about Jesus from the Talmud

>Failed to recognized that polytheism and henotheism are weaknesses in themselves and why monotheism can get its foot in the door and offer a more simplistic system and a deity that can do everything and why there were very few poly or henothestic skeptics or those that would place them in the demon category or put any other unsavory undeified label onto them since the average poly or henotheist back then will be like “well if these many deities exists why can’t others too”?

>Most of the modern followers don’t even do sacifices and if they do it will be cucked ones like fruits or vegetables or hotdogs and not any live sacrifices that is required to be killed unlike their ancient counterparts

Discuss

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 No.19669

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Oh look at the subversive LARPing Jew infiltrating boards and causing division.

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 No.19686

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>>19637

>>19638

>>19640

You don't even understand the point of indo-european paganism. The entire premise is for your ancestors to live on and judge the affairs of you and your children. If you approach everything existential in a purely myopic and utilitarian fashion like this then paganism is not for you, but becoming the fateless cattle of people who do understand this - like Chinese, Jesuits or Jews - is without a doubt your destiny.

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 No.19687

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>>19660

"white" makes perfect genetic sense though? It means Europeans and specifically North or Northwestern Europeans. In another era they would just be known as "Franks" (Frangistan in Persian is the name for Europe) or "Teuton" "Saxon" "Scythian" etc. etc. they were blanket terms for North-Northwest Europeans, but those people are also the fairest featured people on the planet so it makes logical sense to call them "White".

Literally the only two types of people who hate the concept of "White" as a race are 1) people on it's fringes like Southern Italians Jews or Turks and 2) People with a globalist political agenda who want to turn all humanity into an identityless brown soup and White people with an ethnic identity stand in the way of that feverdream.

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 No.19690

>>19687

Are people that don't have the qualities in the pic non white/less white than those that do?

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 No.19692

>>19687

also lmaoe at the dirty brown marks in london, paris and berlin

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 No.17234[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Judeo-pissinsanity's Reign of Terror Over the Germanic Ancient World

The early Christian terrorists really were far worse than ISIS; one thing the two groups have in common is that they were doing the bidding of jews.

>.renegadetribune.com/christianitys-reign-of-terror-over-the-ancient-world/

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 No.19494

>>19437

And the first Christians were converted from their pagan ways by wandering Jews

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 No.19497

>>19493

>He hasn't seen Assyrian DNA

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 No.19545

>>19497

Not Arab =/= Not Semitic

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 No.19580

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 No.19691

File: d1749e28c661290⋯.jpg (72.71 KB, 690x719, 690:719, varg1.jpg)

File: ad192b4a52e7070⋯.jpg (249.26 KB, 1023x768, 341:256, varg2.jpg)

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 No.19680[Reply]

>Loki was the adopted son of Odin, whose father were Ice Giants

>Loki spent his years trying to fuck over his brother out of jealousy and spite

>Loki Ushers in Ragnarok, the end of the gods where in Thor gets killed by Jorumgadr, Odin dies to Fenrir and the world gets bathed in darkness

Loki is literally the god of Non-Nordics/Jews. I remember reading about Egyptian Mythology and seeing that the god Set (equivalent to Loki) was the "god of foreigners".

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 No.19688

File: c3c902a23072f6d⋯.png (61.07 KB, 289x599, 289:599, 1596210219198_0.png)

>>19680

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Set_(deity)

>Set (/sɛt/; Egyptological: Sutekh - swtẖ ~ stẖ[a] or Greek: Seth /sɛθ/) is a god of deserts, storms, disorder, violence, and foreigners in ancient Egyptian religion

>(((foreigners)))

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyksos

>Hyksos (/ˈhJksɒs/; Egyptian ḥqꜣ(w)-ḫꜣswt, Egyptological pronunciation: hekau khasut,[4] "ruler(s) of foreign lands"; Ancient Greek: Ὑκσώς, Ὑξώς) is a term which, in modern Egyptology, designates the kings of the Fifteenth Dynasty of Egypt

>In the Aegyptiaca, a history of Egypt written by the Greco-Egyptian priest and historian Manetho in the 3rd century BC, the term Hyksos is used ethnically to designate people of probable West Semitic, Levantine origin

>While Manetho portrayed the Hyksos as invaders and oppressors, this interpretation is questioned in modern Egyptology

>Josephus associated the Hyksos with the Exodus of the Israelites from Egypt. Many modern scholars believe the Hyksos may have partially inspired the Biblical account

>The Hyksos are known to have worshiped the Canaanite storm god Baal-zephon, who was associated with the Egyptian god Set. Set appears to have been the patron god of Avaris as early as the Fourteenth Dynasty

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 No.18226[Reply]

Luci - fer # fer : means carry in Latin

Luci # simple sound change of "c" pronounced as "s" to "real k" sound

Luki # Loki has been known as "Lucky" in folklore, change "u" to "o"

Loki

Is that why the Ancient Romans didn't know any stories about him because he was known more up North? Such a word was only adopted by the Romans in their Latin, whereas Greek languages continued to use phosphorus to attain the same meaning. Does anyone know when the word "Lucifer" was adopted into Latin? Interestingly the Romanian language still preserves the meaning of the word "luci" but its pronunciation is wrong.

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 No.19178

>>19143

Only in the nominative

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 No.19188

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>>19139

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 No.19609

>>18226

No, because you can't assume words in two very different languages (latin and old norse/old northern germanic) are derived from each other just because they may sound similar.

Also, Loki is not evil. He is the personification of chaos in the universe, because the struggle of change is necessary for the growth to avoid stagnation. It's no coincidence he's the one responsible for getting the gods most of their best tools, including Freyr's ship, Odin's horse Sleipnir, and the Walls of Asgard.

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 No.19611

>>19609

This is all true. He is like the personification of a catalyst. Loki's role in the stories is very important.

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 No.19682

>>18226

No, and this is why you should look at the language it actually comes from, rather than mostly unrelated ones (in this context). Loki literally means "the one who sets an end/change in motion" (að loka = to end, and the added "i" is to personify the concept). He's the force which sets the events leading towards the end of the cycle in motion, the change necessary to drive the story forward. The two replies above (>>19609 and >>19611) sum it quite well.

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 No.19631[Reply]

Can anons recommend reliable sources for aspiring kemetics? Something that's not altered by kangz, obviously.

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 No.19642

This is the wrong board for this, Egyptian religion has very little in common with Nordic polytheism.

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 No.19648

>>19642

/pagan/ did not return.

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 No.19670

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>>19642

It may be the wrong board, but if I were desperate enough to ask an Egyptian board for something on, say, the druids, (as I would be obligated to do here for the same reasons) I would certainly appreciate the solidarity enough for something they had in their possession that I sought to be handed over. We should stick together so long as we all fight against the stranglehold of Abrahamism.

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 No.19677

>>19642

>>19631

Egyptian and Nordic lore actually share quite a few similarities and even share some of the same mythic stories.

montalk.net has more on this

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 No.19679

Varg's books draw parallels between Nordic Religion and Egyptian

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 No.19678[Reply]

There used to be a site/discord forum called "pagan pathways". Anyone know what happened to it? All I can find is some dodgy wicca crap.

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 No.19649[Reply]

Are there any active groups of hellenistic/roman pagans around here?

Id like to know more about your practices.

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 No.19658

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>>19649

Invader spic here, looks like the majority is Norse and no other "cultures".

In my special case my ancestors where some people in a desert and all of their

indigenuos beliefs were exchanged for

Catholicism, this guys are lucky for almost know the name of their gods.

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 No.19675

>>19649

Most of the Pagan revivalist movement are Odinist. Mediterraneans are more satisfied with Catholicism because Catholicism still contains many aspects of the old Hellenist faith.

There's an old myth about an late Roman emperor who wanted to turn back the clock on Christianity so he went to the Oracle of Delphi to inquire as to whether there was any possibility for Hellenism to make a comeback from Christianity. She told him no and that the old Greco-Roman gods were dead. I feel like this legend is a firm nail in the coffin for Greek Paganism.

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 No.7117[Reply]

What was Odins punishment for atheism?

Did the norse/anglo saxon gods punish people for not believing in them?

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 No.7191

They wouldn't punish people, but they might be socially ostracized and alienated.

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 No.7206

In the Odinic rite, like in the Eleusian Mysteries, failing to attain spiritual immortality or awakening is eternal death.

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 No.7304

>>7117

>What was Odins punishment for atheism?

Nothing. Don't treat Paganism like Christianity.

This is a common theme and misconception on this board.

Paganism has no "sins" no "punishments" and "eternal hell" for doing bad stuff. Really, might makes right.

The only reason you would "behave" in society is to get what you want and not be butchered by your neighbors, but if you can get away with it, go for it

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 No.7314

>>7304

What people do not understand is the Havamal is not the Asatru version of the "Ten Commandments" it is just a guide to living a better life. The Havamal is not saying you have to do this or that but that you should do it (if you want to live with a good name). And even so one can still have a good name even if he did not follow one or two of the guidelines set down in the Havamal. The important thing is friends and family and what legacy you leave behind. Remembrance for good deeds is more important than if say you were a bit of an alcoholic or a rapscallion. As long as you gave more than you took. As long as you returned gift for gift and exchange laughter with laughter. That is all that matters. I have friends who after I past will gladly erect a runestone to my memory. I have family who would gladly drink to my memory. That is all that fucking matters. Anyone else who says otherwise is a Christ-cuck LARPing as a heathen.

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 No.19674

>>7304

Huh. Christianity and Christian thinking has been so ingrained into the European mind over the past millennia that it's almost alien to consider how pre-Christian Europeans understand concepts like morality. I am worried that future Odinism might always carry a blemish of Christian influence into its future.

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