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The Lord is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear? the Lord is the strength of my life; of whom shall I be afraid?

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a98451  No.520608[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Glory to God in the highest!

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45fb42  No.826787

report function doesn't work

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04ee1a  No.491187[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Didn't see a qtddtot in the catalog, so I'm creating one.

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94ffb4  No.826760

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How do you use Frankincense?

I use a regular incense burner, the kind with the charcoal puck, and it just… burns it. You get a little bit of the aroma, then it stinks of burning.

Also, where's a good one that doesn't look pagan like this one?

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4fb22f  No.405648[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

27 You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall not commit adultery.’ 28 But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart. Matthew 5:27-28

19 Do you not know that your bodies are temples of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own; 1 Corinthians 6:19

8 Whoever sows to please their flesh, from the flesh will reap destruction; whoever sows to please the Spirit, from the Spirit will reap eternal life. Galatians 6:8

Post your Purity successes/woes/prayer requests/ etc.

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2e139c  No.826795

“Do not fall into despair because of stumbling. I do not mean that you should not feel contrition for them, but that you should not think them incurable. For it is more expedient to be bruised than dead. There is, indeed, a Healer for the man who has stumbled, even He Who on the Cross asked that mercy be shown to His crucifiers, He Who pardoned His murders while He hung on the Cross. ‘All manner of sin,’ He said, ‘and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men,’ that is, through repentance.”

+ St. Isaac the Syrian, The Ascetical Homilies of St. Isaac the Syrian, Homily 64, “On Prayer, Prostrations, Tears, Reading, Silence, and Hymnody”

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3ba951  No.508486[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

>What is this thread?

The designated political discussion thread. Christians from all parts of the political spectrum are encouraged to discuss relevant political topics and ideas, as well as ask questions and hopefully recieve answers from all points of view. Anything related to politics that doesn't actively involve the Catholic/Orthodox/Protestant churches should go here, so if a politics thread is deleted, this thread is the reason why.

As a reminder:

All board rules apply to this thread, so keep things civil.

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704287  No.826742

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1cf805  No.353817[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

“But I have prayed for you, that your faith would not fail. And you, when you have turned back, strengthen your brethren.”

Luke 22:32

Do not be anxious about anything, but in everything, by prayer and petition with thanksgiving, let your requests be known to God. And the peace of God, which surpasses all understanding, will guard your hearts and your thoughts in Christ Jesus.

Philippians 4:6-7

Confess your offences to one another and pray for one another in order to be healed. The insistent prayer of a righteous person is powerfully effective!

James 5:16

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397093  No.826717

Please pray that I find Truth.

I am considering converting to Christianity but I am not sure yet. I can't lie I have many doubts. I had a deep conversation with a friend about this yesterday. I have tried taking the apologetics route but I feel like I need some kind of spiritual experience.

Anyway just pray that I find spiritual Truth wherever it may lead.

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78a662  No.826781[Reply]

For christians who want to use windows 7 extended security updates 2023 http://www.teamos-hkrg.com/index.php?threads/windows-7-sp1-esu-extended-security-updates-bypass-v4-7.118714/

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93fdca  No.826798

>>826781

>>826781

Not suspicious at all

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e54f8b  No.822105[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Where in the Bible does it say we should venerate and worship Mary?

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21fe3d  No.826763

>>826762

>The same people who put it together, passed on the Veneration of Mary, the Queen of heaven.

Oh yeah, and I wonder why they didn't include it in the scripture if it was something they believed. Because it was never a thing u faggot.

>The Old Roman Catholic Church (before the Great Modernist Heresy) is God's One True Church.

No. You deal with it that Mary worship is pagan and comes from Rome, and has nothing to do with Catholic Church. Roman part is the pagan part. All Roman Catholics are following pagan man made traditions mixed with Christianity. Mary worship is pagan.

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b23dab  No.826764

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>>826761

But a few verses back:.

1 Timothy 2

' I exhort therefore, first of all, that supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks be made for all men,

2 for kings and for all who are in authority, that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty.

3 For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior,'

So clearly intercessions are encouraged and there being one mediator isn't in conflict with asking people to pray for you.

Also its seen in passages like the centurion. He asked his friends in good standing to intercede to Christ in his stead since he didnt find himself worthy. That humility was most pleasing to Christ and so his request was granted.

Who are the friends in good standing closer to God now? The saints.

Then there's that parable about being insisting with the judge so that he eventually concedes what you want. What better way to be insisting and annoying than having a plethora of saints interceding for you:p.

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b23dab  No.826766

>>826761

And here there's plenty of quotes by the church fathers on intercession:

http://www.churchfathers.org/intercession-of-the-saints

What modern day Christianity do they resemble?

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f0f157  No.826769

>>826763

Bible says Jesus Christ established a church, not a book. And that Church was established on Saint Peter.

The Bible itself does speak of the written word and verbal tradition.

So, you're wrong.

What's more, for just over 1900 years, it was God's church. I don't care that you don't like it, or think its wrong, or that you lie to yourself because you want to sin. God gave it to us, told us to believe it, and if you don't you are disobeying the Lord God.

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84c4f3  No.826797

>>826769

Bible is the word of God. Mary veneration is pagan. Not in the Bible. If you had a minor knowledge of pagan beliefs in Rome before Christianity, you would know what elements are pagan. But clearly you are an ignorant faggot. All the praying to countless saints is also pagan. The Roman pagans had also gods/saints for everything. After Rome became Christian, they morphed old pantheon into saints, and Semiramis into Mary veneration. Now winnie the pooh off, you are in the wrong and facts of history are on my side.

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31c432  No.826163[Reply]

youve been brainwashed to believe there is a God. Someone told you when you were little and like an impressionable moron you believed them. Also there IS death. Read Acts of the apostles for christ sake. NO one goes to Heaven or Hell or the New Earth when they die, because JUDGEMENT-DAY-HAS-NOT-HAPPENED. Paul also thought he would live to see the second coming because paul and all the apostles thought they were living in the end times. They were wrong just like you

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7f037e  No.826678

>>826163

If there is no God why would I care about what the Acts or any Holy Book says you moron? Nothing would matter.

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80becb  No.826698

>>826163

>Read Acts of the apostles for christ sake.

For Christ's sake, read the Gospels before you read the acts of apostles.

> And as he sat on the mount of Olivet over against the temple, Peter and James and John and Andrew asked him apart: Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign when all these things shall begin to be fulfilled?

>And Jesus answering, began to say to them, Take heed lest any man deceive you. For many shall come in my name, saying, I am he; and they shall deceive many. […] And unto all nations the gospel must first be preached. […]

Now then, how many centuries will it take until the gospel is preached to all nations?

We still have uncontacted tribes on the world. The apostles obviously knew about the fact that they would not live to see the apocalypse, that's kind of the point why they founded the Catholic Church so eventually everything Christ said and the OT prefigured would be fullfilled.

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7d8471  No.826728

Atheist convert. Try again.

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8fe978  No.826784

>>826163

>Atheist

>Also a believer in soul-sleep

??? Sure.

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44f0a1  No.826759[Reply]

Anyone ever St Ignatius's Spiritual exercises any capacity? They seem pretty based but you need an instructor.

I found a Jesuit college that offers an online version you can do on your own, http://onlineministries.creighton.edu/CollaborativeMinistry/r-individual.html

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d6b52d  No.826774

>>826773

Saint Macarius of Egypt writes that Satan appears to those seeking visions as an angel of light to foster in them a proud opinion of themselves as visionaries of the divine, and by this self-pride to lead them to destruction.

>Saint Nilus of Sinai (died c. 430) a disciple of Saint John Chrysostom, teaches that the mind must be “deaf and dumb during prayer”. “When you pray,” he writes, “do not imagine God in any form and do not allow your mind to form any image…”. St. Nilus also warns to not even desire to see any images or visions: “Do not desire to see any face or image during prayer. Do not desire to see Angels, or Powers, or Christ, in order not to become insane, having accepted a wolf for the shepherd and having worshipped the enemies—demons”.

Saint John Climacus asserts that at least some visions and revelations may be created by the demon of pride who uses them to plant and nurture self-pride in devotees: "When the demon of pride becomes established in his servants, then, appearing to them in a dream or in a vision in an image of an angel of light or a martyr, gives to them revelations of mysteries, and as if a gift of [spiritual] gifts, in order that these unfortunate ones, having succumbed to the temptation, completely lost their mind."

Saint Gregory: "[N]ever accept if you see anything physical or spiritual, inside yourself or out, even if it is an image of Christ, or an Angel, or some Saint, or a light appears to you and shows in your mind. The mind itself has a natural power of imagination and can easily create a phantom image of a thing, which it desires… In the same way, a recollection of good or bad things usually shows their images in the mind and leads the mind to imagination..". In another place, St. Gregory repeats the same warning even more sternly: When doing your task [of prayer], you see light or fire outside [yourself] or in, or a face—of Christ, for example, or an Angel, or someone else’s—do not accept it, in order not to suffer damage. And yourself do not make images; and those that come on their own—do not accept them, and do not allow your mind to keep them.

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92ec94  No.826777

>>826773

>>826774

These are great and thorough responses, thank you.

But how then do you reconcile with the fruits of Ignatius? He led great reformd in the Catholic Church and founded a humble order in the Jesuits, one especially commited to the impoverished

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6b9068  No.826778

>>826773

Can you cite any church fathers that say kataphatic prayer is bad, Bryanchaninov is Eastern Orthodox after all and purposefully anti-Roman Catholic.

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5be2f5  No.826788

>>826778

In the post, also cited were Saint John Climacus, Saint Nilus the Elder of Sinai, Saint Macarius the Great of Egypt, and Saint Symeon the New Theologian, all venerated in the Catholic church. There is a wealth of teachings concerning the danger of mental images and such kinds of contemplation during prayer in the Philokalia, and I have included a few below (Only selected were Fathers venerated in both the Catholic and Orthodox church):

>One type of watchfulness consists in closely scrutinizing every mental image or provocation: for only by means of a mental image can Satan fabricate an evil thought and insinuate this into the intellect in order to lead it astray.

>When there are no fantasies or mental images in the heart, the intellect is established in its true nature, ready to contemplate whatever is full of delight, spiritual and close to God.

The heart which is constantly guarded, and is not allowed to receive the forms, images and fantasies of the dark and evil spirits, is conditioned by nature to give birth from within itself to thoughts filled with light. For just as coal engenders a flame, or a flame lights a candle, so will God, who from our baptism dwells in our heart, kindle our mind to contemplation when He finds it free from the winds of evil and protected by the guarding of the intellect.

Every evil thought produces in the intellect the image of some material thing; for since the devil is an intellect he cannot deceive us except by making use of things we are in the habit of perceiving by means of the senses.

-St. Hesychios the Priest

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5be2f5  No.826789

>>826778

>>826788

When in a pure state, the intellect, on receiving the conceptual images of things, is moved to contemplate these things spiritually. But when it is sullied through indolence, while its conceptual images may in general be free from passion, those concerned with people produce in it thoughts that are shameful or wicked.

When during prayer no conceptual image of anything worldly disturbs your intellect, then know that you are

within the realm of dispassion.

It is already much not to be roused to any passion by material things. It is even more to remain dispassionate when presented with mental images of such things. For the war which the demons wage against us by means of thoughts is more severe than the war they wage by means of material things.

The sign of the first is that the intellect, abandoning all conceptual images of the world, concentrates itself and prays without distraction or disturbance as if God Himself were present, as indeed He is.

The demons fight against us either through things themselves or through our impassioned conceptual images of these things. They fight through things against those who are occupied with things and through conceptual images against those who are not attached to things.

The virtues separate the intellect from the passions; spiritual contemplation separates it from its passion-free conceptual images of things: pure prayer brings it into the presence of God Himself.

>In time of prayer clear your intellect of both the passion-free conceptual images of human things and the contemplation of creatures. Otherwise in imagining lesser things you may fall away from Him who is incomparably greater than all created beings.

>The man who has struggled bravely with the passions of the body, has fought ably against unclean spirits, and has expelled from his soul the conceptual images they provoke, should pray for a pure heart to be given him and for a spirit of integrity to be renewed within him (Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

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5ae8c7  No.826786[Reply]

What the does the Bible say about secret societies and how common is modern day human Sacrifices?

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3aef6c  No.826712[Reply]

Truth is we follow God, we've always been behind him

The Carnival is God and may all Juggalos find him

May the juggalos find god may the juggalos find god

He out there he out there

We don’t care if we trick you. We don’t care what happens now

We don’t care if we trick you. We swing our hatchet proud

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987f68  No.826730

ICP kept me on the right track at a time in my life when I had rejected God completely.

They used violent music to reach out to people who were at their lowest point in life, and underneath the violence was a recurring theme of choosing good over evil. At a time when I had no beliefs that would have stopped me from being an evil piece of shit, they exhorted me to not be that way.

They told a story of a carnival that would come and bring judgement to the world, and each album was themed around a certain avenue to sin, like greed or envy, with stories about the worst offenders being punished for refusing to change their ways.

When they finally announced on the last song of the last album of the story that the carnival had been their analogy for God, and encouraged their fans to seek him, it was a huge deal. There was a schism between fans who always knew the message was about being good, and fans who just liked the violence. Some people, who were butthurt at being told to seek God, turned on the band completely. ICP was fully aware that it would cause division, and that's why they sang, "We're not sorry if we tricked you." They were jubilant at finally revealing themselves to be on the side of God. It was a pleasure to see them so happy at that stage in their journey, they were blissful.

God led me back to him in due time. And I'll thank God for the rest of my life for using music and ICP to keep me from straying too far.

I know there are others who were helped in the same and other ways. We became a family to each other. It was common back then to hear a fan say, "ICP saved my life." They reached out to the scum that nobody else wanted and encouraged them to get better.

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987f68  No.826732

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3aef6c  No.826738

>>826732

>They used violent music to reach out to people who were at their lowest point in life, and underneath the violence was a recurring theme of choosing good over evil.

So ICP is reverse Satanism?

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bd93e8  No.826785

>>826730

Tell me more. Sounds interesting.

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780b59  No.826768[Reply]

I’ve always envied the Christian capacity for hope since my childhood, but I’ve never found myself with that ability. From a Christian standpoint, did some aspect of my childhood just turn me over to a reprobate mind, or would I just be in the Calvinist sense honked from the start?

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df27dc  No.826771

>>826768

>did some aspect of my childhood just turn me over to a reprobate mind, or would I just be in the Calvinist sense honked from the start?

you are still alive, there is still hope for salvation. "Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new." 2 Cor. 5:17

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df27dc  No.826772

also

>calvinsim

no offense to you, but this is a wrong belief. check out the following links briefly going over a few topics and let me know if you have any questions.

http://orthochristian.com/46463.html

http://orthochristian.com/46465.html

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f12bb5  No.826783

I was similar to you, where I had little to no faith from childhood. I was called many times throughout my life, but only partially answered. Given where I am now, partial answers rather than a full effort were the biggest mistakes I ever made. Don't make the same mistakes I did. Go full on toward God and sustain it. It is the most important thing you can do in your life. He will answer if you keep at it.

Start praying. Do it every day. Don't stop. No matter how hard it is, don't stop. Take the time and do it right. I recommend saying the rosary with meditation, though you may need to build up to that.

Beg forgiveness for and eliminate sin from your life, particularly mortal sin. Below is an examination of conscience to examine mortal sins in your life.

http://archive.fatima.org/essentials/requests/examconc.asp

Start watching Youtube videos and reading to learn the faith. Go to God. The two sources I'd recommend are the Sensus Fidelium channel, particularly those from Father Ripperger, on Youtube and the long Fulton Sheen catechism series.

Sensus Fidelium

http://www.youtube.com/user/onearmsteve4192/videos

Fulton Sheen

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rumiGyn0Xs&list=PLLEpVo8x_WwCqds-BBtj4sZBz5Ca5Bwts

God calls everyone, though demons can block your ability to properly hear / act on it. Fight through. When you pray, eliminate sins and work to go to God, he will answer.

I repeat, this is the most important thing you can do in your life. Fight through and get there. Don't bother listening to protestants, fight through to traditional Catholic life.

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85bdba  No.826779[Reply]

Big Pharma lies they make money with fake news media tv and internet news there are some christians that got problem from vaccine so i want to share this videos how Big pharma vaccines lies and the government push this propaganda and they shutdown website with antivaccines etc some people got silence

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Au-prruxaa4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPgF-6C2TUU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puTyE_PLcTM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aaYggsoIeNw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdX7J5tWFLw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SBbWMWqPtg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73sBxPW0hm4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-xUB-yXi1k

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYTic5LO

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85bdba  No.826782

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189d9e  No.825552[Reply]

I've got to be honest, I always grew up as christian and always relied on god to guide me, usually thinking about a problem, praying and trusting in his signs resolved whatever my hardships were, but now I am met with thoughts about other girls and nothing clears up. However much I think about it the harder it gets and I just want to know what god wants for me but I can't see his signs. As I said I am not losing faith but I feel left alone when I just want to be good.

So I've been searching for people who might know the word of our lord better than me and came here, when I'm a bit clearer I will go to my priest, but for now I'm still afraid to be met with harsh words if I'm open about my worries.

Now I'm turning to all of you, maybe you can give me some nods so I can see his signs again, feel guided and secure. I'm afraid to disappoint him by not getting through this.

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72988a  No.826710

If it's unnatural it is unacceptable.

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c4258b  No.826755

>>826709

> Pretending that cursing adds any substance to a rational conversation

lol ok. Settle down there, Trevor Noah.

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b80ae8  No.826775

>>825552

Again, I find it difficult to believe this post is sincere due to pic related

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58566f  No.826776

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>>826775

Then maybe sage next time instead of bumping this insidious thread. I nearly vomit every time I have to see OP's pic due to the vocationally absent vols on this board… lol

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5feda5  No.826780

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>>826776

Stop waiting for mommy to make the bad man go 'way.

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a71ae8  No.826594[Reply]

Hello, anons

I think its better if I go direct to the point:

Do you guys ever experienced Sleep Paralysis? I hope not.

Well, I've expericiend a couple times, it's awful.

And the last time it happened (4 days ago), I noticed something, whatever the thing that was beside me, it was controlling me in some way I couldnt move my body, this is "ok", because I couldnt move my body in the other cases, however for the first time this thing touched me! At first glance I thought it was my dog, trying to waking me up, but it wasnt, and sudenlly I got my body totally blocked and all I could do it was start praying in my mind, like all I always do when this things happens to me.

When I pray to God to free me from this nightmare and He doesnt make happen at first seconds, I get totally despair and angry, a horrible feeling - WHY CANT YOU HELP ME? PLEASE, FREE ME?

I noticed that I cant tell whats the worse feeling: the fact that theres a evil creature beside me or the feeling God wouldnt help me.

I think the people in the hell must feel like this, it's horrible.

In the end, God always helped me, the demoniac creature always fades away and I come to sleep like notthing happened, I just remembered what happened by the morning when I woke up.

How to make this stops, anons? I think this things are a bad signal, I used to go to rave parties and I stopped, this was a bad heavy thing I was doing, but now I dont know what I'm doing wrong.

Please, pray for me anons, I also I've been crying most of nights, deaths, suicidal and disgraces scenes are going to my mind, making me sad.

I guess I have to build a stronger relantionship with God, but I dont know how.

What book should I read?

What should I read?

I read the Daily Reading (almost) everyday and when I go to sleep I pray a Hail Mary and a Our Father, sometimes I also pray to my guardian angel.

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490f57  No.826719

I had sleep paralysis a couple of times, but the mind was in a proper state so I did not sense any presence or danger except the peculiar feeling of being unable to command your body. I figured it was better to get back to sleep one time, the other time i insisted until I was finally able to move. Some other times the body moves in response to some half sleep dream, but I am not fully asleep. Like if you were about to fall and you correct your stance. A regular sleep routine and no sleep deprivation solved all. You sure might feel some presences when your brains tunes out from reality into the dream world. Those presences are maybe "real" but not pertaining to the physical dimension so, I guess, you simply don't listen to them.

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6f6b7e  No.826736

>>826594

I’ve had this a lot when I was younger (atheist) including the stuff you saw. Shadowy figures would jump out at me etc.

The shadows are either demons or astral projections of some occultist.

Speak Jesus’s name, and keep speaking it. It always works, it worked for me even when I wasn’t Chrisrian (the shadows hissed and jump back). The name of Jesus makes demons tremble.

Don’t go back to sleep if it happens or you’ll get sucked back in. This will be hard, as when you wake you’ll feel a harsh temptation to go back asleep. You myst resist it.

Keep a cross out or hung on the wall by your bed. I’ve heard of this helping.

In your prayers before going to sleep, ask God to send his angels and archangels to protect you as you sleep.

If you’re a Catholic, the annointing of the sick might help you with this. I’ve heard it be used successfully in similar cases (nightmares etc)

Be mindful not to have a screen in your face at least a half hour within going to bed. Don’t go to bed physically restricted (e.g. under a lot of blankets)

Finally, avoid music, movies, and video games with occult or demonic content. These things can get you marked, and are the reason a lot of us have gone through this

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0e0904  No.826741

>>826647

WHY are you choosing to use yourself as an anecdotical very non-valid evidence against all the countless people who have had it AND felt a presence (including me who on its own of course would be anecdotical as well)

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3bb842  No.826765

Don't listen to the people who say demons aren't real. They absolutely are real. I haven't experienced sleep paralysis, but I've experienced demons in many other contexts. The suicidal thoughts etc sound like a form of demonic obsession. You are being allowed to be attacked by demons to bring you closer to God.

Hail Mary, Our Father and prayers to your guardian angel are a good start. I'm learning how to deal with this too, but I've found Father Ripperger's videos to be the best source on dealing with demons and learning the traditional faith. Look them up on Youtube and go through them, particularly his one on the rosary. The channel the video below is on, Sensus Fidelium, is very good.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRQBaYfD1Go

Learn the traditional catholic faith. Pray the rosary, with meditation. If you are a practicing Catholic, go to confession and attend mass (don't take communion if you are in a state of mortal sin). If you aren't, then become one, ideally through one of the traditional Latin Mass parishes.

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5fae10  No.826770

say the Jesus prayer and make the sign of the cross

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWpc29yC5_I

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