[ / / / / / / / / / / / / / ] [ dir ]

/lit/ - Literature

Discussion of Literature

Catalog   Archive

Name
Email
Subject
Comment *
File
Password (Randomized for file and post deletion; you may also set your own.)
Archive
* = required field[▶ Show post options & limits]
Confused? See the FAQ.
Embed
(replaces files and can be used instead)
Oekaki
Show oekaki applet
(replaces files and can be used instead)
Options

Allowed file types:jpg, jpeg, gif, png, webm, mp4, pdf
Max filesize is 16 MB.
Max image dimensions are 15000 x 15000.
You may upload 5 per post.


Liberate tuteme ex Excelsior!

Related boards and sister sites:
[Philosophy] [Fan-fiction] [Cyberpunk] [Pdfs] [Asimovian Polemics]

With themes and topics of related boards we claim no expertise, but they are welcome here as well.

[Board Bunker]

File: 7a5a94633681738⋯.png (1.33 MB, 759x748, 69:68, hdd.png)

 No.15168[Reply]

Do you use goodreads? I tried using it but although supposedly its users are incentivized to read more since its gameified I stopped using it since I didnt want to keep track of all the shorter shit I had read, and it wouldnt let me just add books without reviewing them. Its also none of amazons business what I read, and a lot of shit on their database did not include translations or the correct information such as page count or author. Many times somebody else was credited as author just for writing a forward even if the author would not have wanted a cocredited author. For instance Mein Kampf could be credited to Elie Wiesel or something (not actually but basically). Fuck goodreads.

I was going to keep track of stuff on a word doc but I figured maybe I will just read the damn books and not keep track at all.

1 post omitted. Click reply to view. ____________________________
Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.

 No.15235

I use goodreads so I can showoff my high iq books that I read to my peers.

I do use but really it provides no real value to me other than my ingrained engineering behavior to spreadsheet/catalog everything I can. I like the ability for a starred rating system. I do this to music/albums I listen to and it is nice to shuffle music based on five stars, obviously doesn't apply here..

Maybe I need to stop using goodreads.

Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.

 No.15238

who?

Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.

 No.15261

>>15168

Tried building some personas on there but I don't care what people think and venting my opinion on things is boring. #SEO bullshit

Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.

 No.15297

I stopped using it when some insane harpies started stalking me because they thought I was the author of Behead all satans.

Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.

 No.15308

>>15168

>and it wouldnt let me just add books without reviewing them

You know you can just not fill the review section out, right?

Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.



File: dd0f5279ee5e311⋯.png (79.01 KB, 2489x605, 2489:605, 1540785050472.png)

 No.15196[Reply]

How do these posts make you feel, /lit/?

2 posts and 1 image reply omitted. Click reply to view. ____________________________
Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.

 No.15202

>>15200

/thread

Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.

 No.15219

>>15202

You could print out pages.

Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.

 No.15241

>>15219

or you can buy a book

Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.

 No.15291

>>15196

This is very concerning. I'm not even a heavy bookfag, and I can tell you that both posters have no comprehension of higher concepts in total. A book can contain a large picture of information that extends a deep understanding of the writer's mind. This cannot happen with snippets of facts. They look at knowledge as a bunch of puzzle pieces. Ignoring the large painting as the author's whole concept. Sometimes it's not the pieces, it's the totality.

Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.

 No.15296

I assume they are talking about non-fiction school-related textbooks? Because what they're saying is true. There is no reason to own a book these days. I coasted through college by using the internet. I only bought a book in the first year because I was nescient and thought I needed it.

HOWEVER

I initially thought they were talking about fiction, which is why I cooked up a rant about how retarded they are, (especially the "ten pages, books are fluff" guys). If someone can confirm they're talking shit about fiction too I'll post it.

Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.



File: ccc298a1b287a1f⋯.png (77.57 KB, 416x435, 416:435, npc.png)

 No.15188[Reply]

where can i pirate books in mobi format? i would like to download some lightnovels and such

____________________________
Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.

 No.15189

gen.lib.rus.ec has some mobi books.

Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.

 No.15193

>>15188

booksee.org has some stuff also, worth a search if you can't find shit elsewhere. Oftentimes the download speed is shit, though, and additionally the selection isn't huge.

Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.

 No.15194

I always use the IRC method for downloading books, you can usually get a book in every format.

>Download IRC client (I use Hexchat) and make sure its set up for receiving files

>Connect to IRCHighway for the server, the channel is 'ebooks'

>use the @search function to find your book. also works searching for an author. Search results will come in a .txt with full format etc information

>copy the entire entry for the download you want in the search results and paste it into the channel

>????

>Profit

Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.

 No.15245

You could always use Calibre to convert stuff like epubs into mobi. That's what I've been doing.

Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.

 No.15279

>>15194

Are such queries visible to everybody when you post them in the channel? I haven't used IRC for like 20 years for file-sharing so I forgot how it works.

Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.



File: 5655ed4b0404e24⋯.jpg (90.97 KB, 650x422, 325:211, 1819bdaf399f1f889a3888ab53….jpg)

 No.15269[Reply]

I'm interesting in reading texts like The Republic, Meditations, etc. But I'm aware all translations are not created equal, are there any recommended translations of the two mentioned (and any other notable works you might suggest). Or is worrying about translations pedantry?

____________________________
Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.


File: 44f68a1fc4cdfe3⋯.jpg (10.95 KB, 197x256, 197:256, download (21).jpg)

 No.15097[Reply]

Was Karl Marx an asshole?

13 posts and 2 image replies omitted. Click reply to view. ____________________________
Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.

 No.15215

>>15097

Given his lifestyle? Yes.

Didn't he constantly ask friends from money?

Didn't he go to a the funeral for his best friends father to ask for more money?

Didn't both his daughters commit suicide?

Wasn't he a terrible father, husband and friend by any metric?

Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.

 No.15224

Is there anything good he brought to the table that wasn't just ripped off of Hegel?

Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.

 No.15247

>>15097

Yes. There are plenty of anecdotes about Marx being an asshole in an entertaining book about him by Francis Wheen, which was well-received (I mean the general public, not Marxists).

>>15102

>He was radicalized after his foray into Hegelian dialectic

No. Hegel wasn't specifically left-wing per se, that's why the term Linkshegelianer exists (links=left), denoting a faction of Hegelians, not Hegel thought as a whole. And those guys were not the most radical thing either, just atheists writing stuff. Marx started out as a journalist in Prussia, writing from a rather reformist perspective. The government crackdown on the newspaper and other reformists lead to his radicalizing. It was the slaughter of the Paris Commune and his direct experience of having the state on his ass that made him cynical and extremist, not Hegel.

>>15190

>bad mathematical skills and lack of logical thinking

I don't think Marx getting gud at math would have changed anything about his world view and polemics.

>>15224

The stuff he ripped from Ricardo and gave a polemical spin to.

Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.

 No.15248

>>15247

You overused "Polemics" too much even though it was the correct term. C-, see me after class.

Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.

 No.15249

>>15248

Would underusing it too much be better?

Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.



File: 914d23b102acf2a⋯.jpg (26.64 KB, 278x474, 139:237, 51vCkfAmYuL._SX276_BO1,204….jpg)

 No.15231[Reply]

Has anyone read? My favorite genre is still coming of age. No spoilers but just looking for opinions on this book.

unrelated does anyone read on LSD?

____________________________
Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.

 No.15232

>unrelated does anyone read on LSD?

I ask because although I have not and I am an.. experienced/frequent tripper for lack of a better term, I recently picked up and looked at a few pages during the tail end of a trip and I was frankly mesmerized by the crisp letters against the faded pages. It made a simple fantasy book seem like some sort of tome of ancient truths. Didn't get to reading however as I was quite tired.

Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.

 No.15239

All degenerates must die

Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.



File: 6e46fc5f51777ee⋯.png (268.04 KB, 1280x720, 16:9, popuko at the beach.png)

 No.15205[Reply]

http://archive.is/yzbyy

Reminder caring about spoilers is only for autistic Redditors.

Pic related for Being Reddit the show, I had nothing else to post.

____________________________
Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.

 No.15206

Depends entirely on the book. Generalizing everything is reddit.

Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.

 No.15207

>>15206

Nice in joke. Unfortunately for you clever in jokes are now Reddit.

Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.

 No.15208

>>15207

There is no in joke. Thinking there are in jokes is reddit.

Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.



File: 0f039cf22f7bfbe⋯.png (197.72 KB, 757x632, 757:632, 0f039cf22f7bfbe25da0fcf311….png)

 No.14665[Reply]

>want to read an old classic

>first editions are incredibly expensive so the only option is to buy a newer edition published by someone like Penguin or Oxford

>the first 70-80 pages are a long winded introduction written by a "literary scholar" telling the reader how to interpret every part of the story, often spoiling it in the process

>he/she repeatedly, unconvincingly, asserts that his/her interpretation, that just so happens to conform 100% to modern sensibilities, is the correct one

26 posts and 1 image reply omitted. Click reply to view. ____________________________
Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.

 No.15119

Go read Moby Dick.

Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.

 No.15166

Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.

 No.15195

>>14665

why do people whine about this so much? Like, is it that hard to just skip the intro and just read the story?

Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.

 No.15197

Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.

 No.15203

>>14981

>Unless you're reading something from BCE

Those can be shit too. I remember reading an intro to one of Aristotle's work, where the editor wrote at length at how enlightened we now are that we know there are no superior or inferior caste or races of men, and that women are equal to men, and that we've always been the one human race.

Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.



File: 419817519eb6ad0⋯.jpeg (7.44 KB, 178x284, 89:142, images (1).jpeg)

 No.14918[Reply]

Pic rel translation is the biggest slog to read I've ever encounteted. Is Constance Garnett a shitty translator or am I too big of a retard? Should I just learn Russian and go with the original instead?

5 posts and 1 image reply omitted. Click reply to view. ____________________________
Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.

 No.15030

>>14931

It's weird though. I thought Garnett did just fine with The Idiot and The Posessed, how did her Brothers K turn out so awful?

Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.

 No.15047

>>15030

He got tired?

Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.

 No.15115

Amazing book anon there's a reason it's taught all over the world

Are you too retarded to see the psychological insights and themes playing out with the characters? How far are you? Garnett translation is great

Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.

 No.15116

>>15115

Just off the top of my head one major gripe I had with Garnett's Brothers K is that it completely fucking leaves out Lizaveta's nickname Smirnatchaya. It doesn't even replace it with "stinking". The play on words used to construct Smirnakov's name is therefore completely lost on the reader, as is the significance of any time the characters describe him as "stinking".

Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.

 No.15178

>>15116

Ah thats fair. I didnt know Liza's last name but I read this for a uni course and my professor explained the "stinking" Smernakov. I would have thought that would be something included as a footnote.

Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.



File: 5865b8b7ae25ff1⋯.png (186.43 KB, 936x540, 26:15, 5209bd52d8b3fc2644fd61f5ea….png)

 No.12532[Reply]

Hi /lit/ I'm working on a novel and actually am in need of advice on how to write a proper romance.

I've never written anything of the sort but the romance between these two characters really adds to the story since it would be the backstory of the protagonist and it would explain why he acts like a douche with everyone. It is because he was unable to protect his wife who died in a terrorist attack, ever since then he fears that he will have to see those dear to him die, either because he is incapable of protecting them or simply because of time, given the fact he has been cursed with immortality.

His wife had endured the same curse and this led them to somehow connect and fall in love.

Problem is, I dunno how to put this into words in a way that works, I fear it would just feel autistic or stupid.

The setting is a Urban fantasy one that parodies various fantasy tropes, I.E.: mages have to pay a monthly mana bill to Telecom Italia in order to cast spells and sometimes their connection to the world ' s leylines may lag resulting in severely delayed magics.

The novel is in Italian,so I don't think I could share it here, at the moment I was starting to write a part in which the protagonist reminisces about the past after drinking, but as I said I dunno how to write this flashback about his romance.

Pic unrelated.

23 posts and 3 image replies omitted. Click reply to view. ____________________________
Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.

 No.14995

>>12532

if you're asking for an advice on an imageboard, you shouldn't be writing anything

Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.

 No.15065

>>14143

Hmmmm. I can only suggest that when you make her die, you have to give clues that something bad has happened. Like lets say he wakes up and hears on the news that a fire went off in a building. Then he texts her and gets no response but hes at work and knows its busy for both of them so he doesn't take it personally and continues with his work. He meets at the restaurant but she still hasn't arrived so he goes to her place and discovers their is a candle light vigil for her cause she died in the fire. The real kicker could be that as he is mopping around the streets, he bumps into a stranger who tells him to get a hold of himself, sort of symbolizing that the world continues if you lose something.

The white Plague talks about a dude who goes nuts after his wife and daughters dies and creates a virus to kill all women. That might help you when he goes crazy.

Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.

 No.15072

>>12532

I've circumvented this problem by only writing about dysfunctional infatuations that never come to fruition. Write what you know and all that.

Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.

 No.15167

>>14975

not him but if you don't create valuable writing and instead mock and satirize """tropes""", you don't have soulful writing tbqh

Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.

 No.15172

File: 9855c9a266327e9⋯.jpg (37.07 KB, 355x400, 71:80, museum_of_trash.jpg)

File: a23f561333b07d4⋯.png (184.14 KB, 531x694, 531:694, I'm all about trashing.png)

>>12532

>pic

>doesn't specify when, which is really fucking important when talking about history (who woulda fucking thought?)

Trash-worthy status:

[X] Not trash-worthy

[✓] Into the trash it goes

Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.



File: 163a3b18529f78f⋯.png (1.6 MB, 1920x1090, 192:109, vlcsnap-2017-04-17-17h50m0….png)

 No.15086[Reply]

I need to read a novel in the genre of 'social realism' for a school assignment, it's something I've never really touched and need some advice in order to find something decent.

I took a glance over on cuckchan's /lit/ wikia for suggestions but they don't seem to have a sorting system for what I'm looking for, but maybe I'm just doing it wrong.

http://4chanlit.wikia.com/wiki/Recommended_Reading/sub

2 posts omitted. Click reply to view. ____________________________
Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.

 No.15092

>>15086

Poor Folk by Fyodor Dostoevsky

Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.

 No.15095

>>15086

Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn's Gulag Archipelago. Read the one volume abridged version if you don't have time to read the three volumes.

Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.

 No.15111

>>15092

Sounds interesting, especially the time period but I'm not sure if I'll like the format of 'letter exchange'. Might take a closer look.

>>15095

I've been wanting to read and learn a bit more about the horrors of communism, this might be a good one as well.

I will probably not have time to read three volumes, we have about a month of reading time in front of us.

Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.

 No.15170

>>15092

Thanks again for the recommendation, I eventually decided on this book as The Loser's was not translated to my language (which was a must for the assignment) and the The Gulag Archipelago did not have its abridged version translated.

I would probably not have chosen Poor Folk otherwise since I'm generally not a fan of romance and the 'letter exchange' used to tell the story didn't really appeal to me.

But I'm happy that I in the end did choose this book, I really enjoyed it and I think it opened my eyes to different kinds of literature than I've previously read.

I'll probably read The Gulag Archipelago unabridged at some point simply because the subject interests me.

Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.

 No.15201

>>15111

>politically illiterate American don't know what communism is

sage

also Solzhenitsyn is a big fat liar and a meme of 80s USSR. If you want to know about live in Stalin's GULAGs go read Varlam Shalamov http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varlam_Shalamov

Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.



File: 4e39c1d79e6eaf7⋯.png (69.49 KB, 688x864, 43:54, gpage 1.png)

File: 6c0cbdb1cd235b8⋯.png (63.21 KB, 691x817, 691:817, gpage 2.png)

 No.14998[Reply]

I've started writing a fantasy novel technically a fanfiction since it's based on an existing universe and I need some input on tying together the core aspects of the different religions. The source I'm basing it on mentions very little of the religious lore which leaves me a lot of creative freedom, though it also tells enough that the concept of it greatly appealed to me.

Now I'm not asking for help regarding staying true to canon (it's also not a goal I'm pursuing with this novel), rather I need help at making it sound believable and interesting.

>Read the attached pictures first for the rest to make sense

The core idea is that the two brother's conflict is what keeps this universe together and I want to present them as either neutral, different kinds of evil or even evil vs good, depending on the reader. But in-universe I want to portray them as one side of the extreme, either the saviour or destroyer of mankind, depending on which religious follower you listen to.

But there's also a third brother which chooses to not engage the fight between his kin, since he understands that there needs to be a balance. However I don't want it to be too on the nose that I (as the author) am of the same opinion as him, I'd rather lead the reader to their own conclusion even if it's not necessarily the same as mine.

So I have two texts that I'll present without the context of the rest of the story (I'm only about 5,300 words deep). But I'll shortly mention that upon seeing the title of the book I write about in the second picture, the MC recalls the creation myth he was told by his masters and retells it for the purpose of the reader in the first image.

The first one is a creation mythos written from the perspective of an 'Innos' worshipper. My worry is that I present 'Adanos' in a too kind of a light and that I'm showing my bias for how I interpret the power balance. I try to amend this in the main characters thoughts/third person story telling that comes afterwards, but I feel like if it's meant to be written from the perspective of an 'Innos' worshipper, it would be slightly harsher on 'Adanos'. At the same time I can't leave him out of the creation mythPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

13 posts and 2 image replies omitted. Click reply to view. ____________________________
Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.

 No.15148

>>14998

OP, make your religion(s) for the universe in full detail. Then write your story in that universe. The characters' actions should show their beliefs. No monologue or exposition should be needed except rarely and briefly.

Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.

 No.15151

>>15117

I've already changed all the names. The story and universe deviates so heavily that it's more like an inspiration at this point.

>>15148

What I've presented is pretty much the only exposition I (currently) plan to shove in the readers face so plainly.

I still need to work on fleshing out the deeper lore and mythos but my idea as I mentioned in a previous post is that the gods and religion people in my universe follow (there aren't different religions, only different interpretations of the same) is in actuality, false.

Many thousands of years ago three brothers managed to attain immortality and with it the time required to delve ever deeper into their study of the arcane. Eventually they individually became strong enough to single handedly overthrow whole kingdoms, and so they did. After many years their subjects eventually started to look up at them as almost god-like beings since they never aged and wielded awe-inspiring magick.

Then one of the brothers decided to abuse this and wrote a creation mythos of his own, with himself as the one true god. The brothers were split up and ruled a third of the world as their own kingdom, in order to not lose their footing and have people start worshipping their other brother, the other two created their own works of fiction which also they portrayed them as creators of the known universe.

My story taking place many thousands of years in the future with the three brothers having vanished (still not sure regarding the details, might just leave it vague) people have twisted and changed the stories so many times that nothing of the truth or even original fictitious stories remain. And so many different types of sects, faiths and beliefs have sprouted, but they all base it on the same three brothers. There aren't really any 'none-believers', at most some might feel apathetic towards the stories of gods.

I don't plan to have an atheistic tips fedora storyline, I'll leave the acPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.

 No.15154

File: bcf5c4026199e35⋯.png (68.36 KB, 957x502, 957:502, creation mythos.png)

>>15151

>Some more details on how I want to write the universe/religion

So my plan is to have the generally accepted creation mythos be the one in the attached image. Some people might side more with either Aldhanos or Iffanos, but they base their belief upon the same stories and believers don't generally hold a grudge towards each others.

Regardless, there are still cults that either follow different texts (though still based upon the three brothers) or simply interpret the 'mainstream' text in a different way. Some may be considered straight up heretical and deserving no more than death (from the main groups perspective) whilst some are only seen as 'simple minded' followers that no one should pay any heed to. The main religion rules the world and enforces a hard restriction upon magick where only those that have for many years worked as apprentices in a monastery and proven their faith and dedication to the gods are allowed to learn and study the arcane. This is largely to control the people and not have any random cults attempting to overthrow whole kingdoms.

My main character has in the past been wronged making him lose his trust in the good will of the church and is no longer truly devoted to the Gods. I still haven't thought of something concrete that also avoids dumb clichés such as his parents being slaughtered for being 'heretics'.

The main point I wish to get across is that the worlds magick is stifled by the laws of their beliefs and my main character joins a monastery not because he's a true believer, but rather because he wants to explore the strange realm of magick and in turn earn power for himself. For example the manipulation of nature, animals and death is completely forbidden and considered heresy as these are all practices which can be attributed to the dark God Braxir.

<I realize my ramblings might not be super interesting to everyone but it feels like I gain some better insight when I put my thoughts into words. And rather than just writing them into a document no one else will read, I may get some good suggestions and critique if instead it's posted here.

Post too long. Click here to view the full text.
Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.

 No.15158

>>14998

>The core idea is that the two brother's conflict is what keeps this universe together

Are you writing a fan fiction for Lost?

Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.

 No.15160

>>15158

>Are you writing a fan fiction for Lost?

It's loosely based on the universe from the games of Gothic but it on its own is very threadbare and they've even retconned things in the sequels.

But the thing you quoted is essentially the core of it, except that there's also a third brother that acts as the keeper of balance between the two. In the games it's heavily implied that the gods are actual gods but like I talked about in a few posts (like the one above your reply) this is not the route I wish to take with my universe.

In the end I've decided that what I'm writing is completely my own and instead to only draw from their universe as an inspiration rather than force myself to write within their limitations. I simply enjoy the core concepts of their fictitious religion.

Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.



File: 4fa6f307c786d63⋯.png (345.67 KB, 439x500, 439:500, 33424614-3D88-4315-8BEC-E1….png)

 No.15129[Reply]

Hey /lit/ is there something wrong with me? I’m getting bored of reading. I’m currently reading lord of the rings. I don’t know if I’m the problem or the book I’m reading

____________________________
Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.

 No.15130

>>15129

You probably need a break from reading. Do something else for a change.

Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.

 No.15131

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

You probably need a break from computers

Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.

 No.15142

>>15131

>>15131

Good to see you migrate here

Quality is still shit but it's at least marginally better when actual discussion is being had

Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.

 No.15145

it's most likely the book

with books I hate I read 4-6 pages an hour and only "read" them for an hour or two. with books I love I read them almost 14 hours a day

either that or porn and video games have fried your brain and you've become addicted to quick dopamine surges

Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.

 No.15147

>>15129

plebe npc

Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.



 No.15126[Reply]

____________________________
Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.


 No.15075[Reply]

When I finish reading something I want to see what other people thought about that text. My next action to browse forums seeing what other people had to say about it. This is good for finding out if other people liked it, what kind of people like it and finding other similar readings. However, this method leaves a void for deep critical analysis. Posts on forums rarely try to argue about meaning or intention. The structure less responses often are just people writing; they think it is good. Seldom with conviction and without evidence.

Where do you find analyses? I tried using my university database but found there wasn't much for analysis. There was however a handful of articles proclaiming the relevance of Marx and gender studies to any given work. Search engine results mostly gave sites similar to spark notes and sites offering to write papers in exchange for money. The former sites often had content behind paywalls that was written high school students and teachers.

3 posts omitted. Click reply to view. ____________________________
Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.

 No.15089

>>15085

I read so I can circlejerk and be called a good or bad goy by my learned fellows over at >>>/reddit/.

Without being told what to think, I wouldn't survive. Please upvote and comment below!

Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.

 No.15091

Yeah, I don't think you're gonna find what you're looking for.

Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.

 No.15103

>>15075

The best you can do is to find a collective of literary academics (preferably centrists so you don't just read a goddamn manifesto with every essay) and read their say on the subject. Sadly, you won't find them congregating outside of academia. There used to be a time when respected critics like Orwell would publish their tome-like analysis too but that era has all but disappeared from the scene.

I dunno, man. I don't think you'll find what you're looking for now but if you do, give us a heads up.

Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.

 No.15105

>>15082

this

the chad neoplatonic mystic who draws from the wellspring of the heavenly spheres

vs

the virgin vicarious analysis-reading sheep

Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.

 No.15107

>>15085

upboat based fellow redittor!

Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.



Delete Post [ ]
[]
[1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9] [10] [11] [12] [13] [14] [15] [16] [17] [18] [19] [20] [21] [22] [23] [24] [25]
| Catalog | Nerve Center
[ / / / / / / / / / / / / / ] [ dir ]