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 No.10370[Reply]

Is L. Ron Hubbard respected as a science fiction writer?

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 No.10379

>>10375

Tom Cruise pls

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 No.10413

no

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 No.10414

>>10413

but i respect him as a tax evader and scam artist.

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 No.13436

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 No.13832

>>10414

I agree with this

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File: 8cde047bae7977a⋯.jpg (37.27 KB, 448x252, 16:9, moonrise-kingdom.jpg)

 No.13797[Reply]

ITT books with this specific kind of kino: implicitly white young adolescents discovering each other in an erotic or crypto-erotic 1960's dreamscape. I've already read Ada or Ardor, is there any other lit like this.

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 No.13808

File: b6ab277ea45ce10⋯.jpg (33.24 KB, 312x500, 78:125, Harrad.jpg)

Interesting thread topic - and I've been mulling over for a few days books that would fit your rarified "kino" and am left perplexed.

My take on Ada or Ardor, which I read earlier this year, was quite different from yours. The young adolescent discovery of eros seemed a relatively minor stratum of this work covering as the book did the whole lifespan of the major characters. To me the focus of the book was Nabokov's usual beat, the Russian prince libertine, teenage girls, incest, butterflies and arboreta, growing old - a fantasy on the lives of the privileged few that pervades most of his work.

The 60s dreamscape? Sure it was written in the late 60s, but in my view Ada wasn't a 60s' fantasy - Nabokov had been exploring all this for decades. He's the classic ephebophiliac (for the female sex)

But have you read Robert Rimmer's The Harrad Experiment? I haven't read this since the 60s when it was written but it made a profound impression on me about the "free love" prevalent in those times and, although not such an idyl as Ada and maybe the characters are not quite young enough for your criterion, but Harrad explores the 60s' sensual development of young people in a speculative, uptopian manner which you may find of interest.

I'd be most curious to read of any other anon's suggestions for this thread, too.

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 No.13829

File: 9d7ddc17a0b0b81⋯.jpg (253.74 KB, 1000x1000, 1:1, 80020945_01_l.jpg)

The closest thing I can think of are some paintings by Balthus, they have the erotic/crypto-erotic aspect and a surreal atmosphere, though not the 1960's bit. It sounds like you're looking for something rather particular. I don't know if you'll find what you're looking for, sex has become kind of passe in the last 50 years in literature.

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File: 510575deac0c2df⋯.jpg (85.52 KB, 616x672, 11:12, Michel de Montaigne.jpg)

 No.13821[Reply]

"Great abuses in the world are begotten … imposing upon the world … penetrate into what it is to believe … playing with cats …"

Read it. Still don't get it. Isn't this motherfucker supposed to be a beacon of clarity?

The fuck is a Raimond Sebond and why does it piss everyone off?

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 No.13827

>>13821

>…

>Great abuses in the world are begotten, or, to speak more boldly, all the abuses of the world are begotten, by our being taught to be afraid of professing our ignorance, and that we are bound to accept all things we are not able to refute: we speak of all things by precepts and decisions. The style at Rome was that even that which a witness deposed to having seen with his own eyes, and what a judge determined with his most certain knowledge, was couched in this form of speaking: “it seems to me.” They make me hate things that are likely, when they would impose them upon me as infallible.

Book II, Ch. 12: Apology for Raimond Sebond

I can't find the other quotes, but next time you want to shitpost, consider necking yourself.

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 No.11717[Reply]

What's a good lightweight or minimalist writing program for Windows? Shit like MS Word and LibreOffice Writer are so bloated.

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 No.13690

I use FocusWriter. It's a bit more featured than Q10 (which I also like). I like the customisable backgrounds, and it has spellcheck and other text formatting shit like italics and whatnot because it can save to .odt and all this shit if you want to turn it on, but you ccn set it up to be the most basic command-line looking text editor with no "help" at all.

And the word/page count and daily goal features are great.

>>13350

I remember opening Notepad++ one day and it opened a new document all by itself and started slowly typing out this political message. I don't need fucking politics injected in to a goddamn text editor.

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 No.13693

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 No.13792

>>13693

learn to use vim you brainless cunt

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 No.13819

>>13792

and then use evil

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 No.13820

I have focuswriter on linux and I remember there was a very similar one in windows 10 about 2 years ago.

If you do a general search through the windows appstore you should be able to find it.

I remember it was this blank space with a blue background (you had a few to choose from I think) and it had the option for relaxin music too but I cannot remember the name.

Anyway apparently focus writer can be used on windows:

http://focuswriter.en.softonic.com/

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 No.13546[Reply]

What books are you plebs reading?

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 No.13793

File: 7bbed6879fd8a26⋯.jpg (27.8 KB, 300x300, 1:1, 51Wkz0dBc6L._SL300_.jpg)

I'm currently going through "The top 100 sci-fi" audiobooks (random torrent I found). RIght now, I'm in the middle of "Stranger in a Strange Land" by Robert Heinlein (guy who wrote 2001).

I've really come to appreciate how well all these writers take a seemingly simple idea and make them so interesting.

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 No.13794

I've put it off for about 8 years now but I'm finally almost finished with The Idiot. I regret putting off some other books until I finish it, especially ones that are referenced in The Idiot itself, but this book has taunted me for nearly a decade.

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 No.13796

>>13794

I made it to the halfway mark in The Idiot when I was staying at a monestary. I will probably finish it in a few years from now. Really delicate character studies therein.

Yes this is pleb tier reading but I've been reading Crime and Punishment for almost a decade. I just cherish Raskolnikov so much. I don't really even want to know what happens to him. I usually stop reading afte /that/ happens. I just love the descriptions of how fucked everything is in the whole city. It's great.

Also thumbing through Kafka's Castle. I did not understand a word of it the first time I read it, but this time I have an entirely different view because I've actually been through Beurocracy Hell.

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 No.13805

>>13546

I'm balancing two books currently;

Legendary Blue Smoke by Philip H. Faber – decent enough, a fun light read.

Finneganns Wake by James Joyce – remarkably fun, though I only read two pages(or so) at a time, it really energizes my willingness to language.

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 No.13817

>>13796

The Idiot didn't really click for me until I read a quote from Dostoevsky about it, which I found on the back of an older copy of the book:

>The chief idea of the novel is to portray the positively good man. There is nothing in the world more difficult to do, and especially now. All writers… who have tried to portray the positively good man have always failed… The good is an ideal, but this ideal, both ours and that of civilized Europe, is still far from having been worked out. There is only one positively good man in the world - Christ.

It's amazing I can't find this quote online.

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 No.13664[Reply]

Is there an equivalent of '13 Reasons Why' for school shootings?

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 No.13666

File: d9b6e94bdc39802⋯.jpg (14.92 KB, 220x332, 55:83, Ragebachman.jpg)

Not that I know of. This is the only fiction novel I know of about school shootings.

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 No.13784

>>13664

If there was it would never be published.

Have you read any of Seung-Hui Cho's works?

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 No.13801

The only thing I could think of close to this is that one book Mumkey Jones wrote, The Triflers.

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 No.13815

>>13801

Torrent pls? Can't find it on libgen and I'm poor.

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 No.13816

>>13666

Spicy trips

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 No.13758[Reply]

OMG how did I ever miss this? The dude's an absolute genius! And deserves a discussion thread of his own

I've had a look online and other than his brilliant website can only find for download mp3 podcasts

Has anyone pdfs of his comics they can attach or magnets/links to written work?

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 No.13767

You're easily impressed OP

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 No.13774

I have the alphabet of manliness and it's the first book i ever bought that wasn't for school

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 No.13789

Fuck off maddox

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 No.13795

Friendly reminder that Maddox:

>made a career on being manly, but is the poster child for a soy-based diet

>made a WELL ACKSCHUALLY video about the word "cuck" and said there's nothing wrong with being called one

>is suing Dick Masterson (his former partner) and Patreon for $20 million because Dick said mean things about him (i.e. he's a cuck) and his girlfriend

>pointed to a dead 8chan board that has maybe 20 posts as "proof" that Dick made a "rape list" to harass his girlfriend

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 No.13804

Fuck off cuck.

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File: 36141901043061b⋯.png (33.75 KB, 1021x186, 1021:186, nanowrimoScreenshot from 2….png)

 No.13711[Reply]

How do I win NaNoWriMo?

You win NaNoWriMo by writing 50,000 words of your novel between November 1 and November 30. There’s no limit on how many people can win! Just be sure that you’ve defined a novel on our site, and that you validate your novel’s word count at the end of the month.

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 No.13730

Hammering out tons of garbage (but quick) never seemed very productive for me.

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 No.13738

>6 days already passed

FUUUUUUUCK

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 No.13756

File: 466d1cd47861375⋯.jpg (118.55 KB, 900x600, 3:2, soul limitations.jpg)

>>13717

They said your entry will be "deleted" after a few hours. Quoted because it's based on their words. From what I know about the internet, whatever you wrote is forever there.

>>13730

Same but we all have our own writing pace. IIRC brandon faggot/Faggot King produces more than 2k words a day.

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 No.13768

What if everybody on /lit/ were to collaborate on some horrifying shit brick collection of short stories and submitted it to NaNoWriMo?

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 No.13769

>>13768

I don't see the point. If anon wants to submit a short story, might as well copypaste the same text until it's 50k words. It's not like anyone reads the entries.

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File: d593f87ad20362a⋯.jpg (24.29 KB, 400x400, 1:1, 1449304626283.jpg)

 No.13610[Reply]

Greetings, lit. I come here to ask a simple question: how, exactly, does one create a good horror story, one that is genuinely scary to the vast majority of people who read it? Whenever I write something, I simply can't instill any kind of fear, whether it be in myself or anyone else who reads it.

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 No.13635

File: d80cfd559250f15⋯.png (580.58 KB, 640x523, 640:523, 876e39f4e6806ce9b4a00a197d….png)

I like this channel a lot but some of you guys in here try way to hard to sound smart. Just answer OPs question without being such a cocksucking hipster.

To the OP - Who're the demographics for your story? If you say teenagers, go write a back about shit that scared you when you we're a kid since the majority of kids are stupid and see the same tv shows as each other so they're fears are the same.

Adults have different types of fears like having more tasks assigned to them at work or bumping into a pissed off gf in front of their wife and kids. Those things are fucking terrifying to me.

Scary monsters that go boogy-woogy omma-each-you, not so much.

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 No.13636

>>13635

*book* not back. Autocorrect a shit.

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 No.13638

>>13635

*their* not they're.

I can't type today ;__;

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 No.13759

Part of the reason why horror is so irritating to write is that horror is a very subjective thing. That sounds really obvious, but it's not just personal, it's also cultural. That's why Japanese horror stories seem radically different from Western ones. The only consistent pattern I've noticed is that the best horror stories are deeply linked to the common cultural understanding of the afterlife, and this is often so subtle that even the author doesn't understand it.

I'll give you an example: one of the more popular computer games to come out in the horror genre is called Tattle Tail. At its face it's a very cut-and-dry game, but the horror lies in what it implies: You are forced to carry around and pamper, practically worship this doll that does nothing to benefit you and constantly gives you away to a lurking horror which is threatening you with a punishment that goes so far beyond what you deserve as to be comical. If you don't do an absolutely perfect job at this game, including doing some shit you had no way of knowing you had to do, even if you make it to the end you still lose.

That sounds really boring when I just describe it like that, but it's so close to a Western (especially Christian) understanding of the afterlife that it gets into your skin when you start to think about it. Suddenly you realize not only were you raised to believe such a horrible thing, but you're surrounded by people who would happily sell you out for your eternal punishment. People you love, even people who love you, are all slaves to this exact twisted logic.

A lot of people tell you that horror is in what you don't know, and that's partially true. A lot of other people will tell you that horror is all about the dark potential inherent in all humans, and that's also true. However, if you want HORROR, you need to find a way to open your audiences' eyes to the fact that they are surrounded, every day, in real life, by people who do terrible, unforgivable, indescribable things, and think it's perfectly normal. Not only is it about the dark potential within us all, it's about that moment, like in a nightmare, when you realize you're the only person who can see the terror, and no one can help you confront it.

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 No.13765

>>13610

Atmosphere and suspense, do not be pornographic.

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 No.13740[Reply]

Pic unrelated. Apologies for blogpost.

I spent a while trying to come up with ideas for stories to write. I came up with three I thought I could do:

1 - A last man on earth kind of deal - a guy goes into work as normal, then the next day everyone else is gone and there's a perpetual fog. He does everything he ever wanted, alone, and after exploring the world he sees echoes of peoples lives, glimpses moments, hears conversations, and eventually comes to some revelation and brings one person back, who in turn brings back more, etc. It was supposed to be a sort of personal purgatory on the nature of loneliness and a need for others. Ultimately, after a few pages of the usual routine and starting on the fog coming, I thought it'd be too boring. Didn't have the skill to make it otherwise.

2 - A country on an earth-like planet is highly automated. The jobs that remain are all creative, or computer-based maintenance stuff. Certain recreational and social activities are enforced. It was going to be called AutoNation, on the nature of mundanity and lack of freedom and purpose. Becoming a machine. Only way I could make it compelling was to turn it into a 1984 ripoff.

3 - This was going to be in a shared universe with no. 2 just for the hell of it. The idea was simply "generic space adventure", and the pdf I've uploaded represents 2 years of sporadic writing. I tried to figure out the world and do a timeline for the story, but ultimately I can't do dialogue. Or people. It was all about forcing a story arc. Fanfiction. That said, please read it if you've the time.

Writing about concepts or reviewing things seems easy, but slowing down, trying to characterise, explain the details, really is just awful.

Thoughts on the pdf/story ideas?

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 No.13743

>>13742

In terms of gravity, it's not centrifugal, it's the Star Wars type. Perhaps they found a way to use gravitons to artifically create a small downwards force.

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 No.13744

>>13743

I was giving you the benefit of doubt that this wasn't another post-television space adventure where people inexplicably act like they are on a film set, expect without the audio-visual experience.

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 No.13745

>>13744

If you want old-school space adventuring you can’t go wrong with the Skylark series. That shit’s great.

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 No.13747

Sally seems quite low-tech, much like a basic Alexa tube. Wouldn't they have designed user voice recognition by then? (Maybe I had not noticed the hijacker stealing some kind of voice mimicking device??) What about making Sally a hologram? She could be a hologram with big boobs. Also under the pilot's dashboard there could be a rubber tentacle like the attachment of a vacuum cleaner and Troy could say 'Sally, I'm on biological urge suppressants: tell me what level my bladder biometrics are at' (on long freight trips under tight deadlines, space truckers might not want to take frequent pee breaks because CCTV could report them as being inattentive at the wheel). She might say "ninety-four point naught five percent capacity, Captain" and Troy'd be like "That's nearly a full bladder again. Care to do something about that or do you not give a cr*p about this vessel and its mission; forcing me to get up to go pee for the third time since leaving the spacedock while under the surveillance of Greenland Drone Corp?" giving an eye to the inward-facing dash cam for emphasis. "I thought you knew I had this medical condition, Sal". Then Sally's rubber tentacle; seeming reluctant, could grab an empty bottle from under the dash and hold it in place for Troy to hands-free pee in as Troy says 'That's my girl' and grabs a bottle of water from the passenger seat and squeezes the entire contents down his neck (aka slams it) then discards it under the dash along with half a dozen other empty bottles.

I think you said he's a minor character so that'd be a way to make him memorable as 'That Guy'. It would show what a scumbag he is and make people glad when the lady pistols whips the bastard's skull.

I only gave the story a skim but I think I'll come back to it. I could probably give more helpful suggestions but it's getting late. I'll say that it's pretty good that you can commit thought into a story arc (even if only for several pages), a process which would burn the enthusiasm for writing out of a lot of people, though you probably already know this. If you can keep it up I think the only thing you can do is improve. People should be thanking you for posting the story rather than the other way around. That's not sarcasm either.

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 No.13748

>>13747

Sally is very low tech, basically done as comic relief and as a way of showing how shit the voice control gimmick currently is. No voice recognition. The world of the story itself is pretty low-tech. No laser weapons, teleportation etc. The whole pee break idea was fucking great though, had me laughing. The lady that attacks him is one of the main characters, but I wanted her to come off as kind of an asshole, because I wanted the Brian character to hate her.

The story's pretty rushed and I'm struggling to continue, but thanks for the feedback, I can definitely put in some tweaks in the prologue.

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 No.13746[Reply]

Attila Jozsef: Without Hope

I am as one who comes to rest

by that sad, sandy, sodden shore

and looks around, and undistressed

nods his wise head, and hopes no more.

Just so I try to turn my gaze

with no deceptions, carelessly.

A silver axe-swish lightly plays

on the white leaf of the poplar tree.

Upon a branch of nothingness

my heart sits trembling voicelessly,

and watching, watching, numberless,

the mild stars gather round to see.

In heaven’s ironblue vault …

In heaven’s ironblue vault revolves

a cool and lacquered dynamo.

The word sparks in my teeth, resolves

- oh, noiseless constellations! - so -

In me the past falls like a stone

through space as voiceless as the air.

Time, silent, blue, drifts off alone.

The swordblade glitters; and my hair -

My moustache, a fat chrysalis,

tastes on my mouth of transience.

My heart aches, words cool out to this.

To whom, though, might their sound make sense?

As quoted in: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6Av0D8HUzs

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attila_J%C3%B3zsef

>He died on 3 December 1937, aged 32, at Balatonszárszó, where he was staying at the house of his sister and brother-in-law. Crawling through the railway tPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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 No.13680[Reply]

Hey, I was wondering if you guys could help me find a short story that I read about a year ago. It's about a gay Parisian man who has to put down his old dog. There's also some bits about his long term boyfriend cheating on him. It's a beautiful piece, and I've scoured through everything I can think of, but it still eludes me,

have a webm for your time.

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 No.13705

>>13704

not really what you're looking for but here's a collection of short story with an overarching plot. It's a translated webnovel.

You'll notice it's edit are shitty (or because it's a web/light novel) because you'll get confused with the character names especially the MC at the beginning.

http://keztranslations.wordpress.com/quickly-wear-the-face-of-the-devil/

anymore music like your webm, though?

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 No.13708

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>>13705

I think that's all I've got in the mellow piano department.

This the closest I've got. I'll have to check out your link.

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 No.13720

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

Let this thread be >>>/mu/

I uninstalled ffmpeg so I had to embed only. Had these files in mp3 format from the game files so I couldn't upload shit.

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 No.13721

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

I still don't know what you're looking for btw OP since I'm a recent reader.

>>13708

thanks for the music, though.

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 No.13739

>>13720

Still hoping for that short story though

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 No.13625[Reply]

Hey guys, I'm looking to study the history of architecture. Anyone have any good recommendations?

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 No.13651

>>13637

everyone just wants to forget that brutalism ever happened

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 No.13654

>>13651

it should happen again

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 No.13667

>>13654

I agree. Structural expressionism was a mistake.

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 No.13702

>>13637

It's good inspiration if you want to write dystopia, at least.

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 No.13703

>>13702

Sorry for the sage. Unsage.

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 No.13685[Reply]

I'm only familiar with Voltaire's historical writings which, assuming they were meant to be taken seriously, are some of the most abysmal works of historiography I've ever read, even for their time. As a result I have quite a bit of disdain for the faggot and have avoided his other works up until now. Are his non-historical books any good and if so what are some good ones to start with? I know he was a satirist, but did write good satire or was he just the 18th century's current year man?

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 No.13686

Why don't you just read Candide and see what you think about it?

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 No.13695

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You know what? I actually smile when I read the contes of Voltaire. Read Zadig and Candide

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 No.13698

>>13685

He is funny at times and pompous at times. His criticism of Leibniz through Pangloss is the funniest part.

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 No.13387[Reply]

What are your recommendations for writing? What advice can anyone out there give?

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 No.13398

>>13391

>don't be too afraid to show your work to others

Never ever show unfinished work to anyone, or you will lose your drive to finish it.

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 No.13415

Writing is heavily competitive and drowning in shit. Any idiot can open up a word processor and write shitty Sonic fan fictions, and just about every idiot does. Unfortunately this also means the bar for entry is also lower for truly creative and talented writers, which means there are a shitload of those wandering around too. Considering that art is ultimately a popularity contest, this means that the vast vast majority of writers will die poor without their work ever being appreciated or published, regardless of its quality. If you want to write, you need to make yourself comfortable with that, because that's really intimidating.

You have to believe that the story you want to tell is worth telling. You have to believe that in an ocean of shit, your story will stand out like a brilliant light. But believing is not enough: You have to be able to prove it. You need to know that you're good enough to tell this story. You need to be prepared to make compromises, accept the harshest of criticism, in order to make that light shine through the iron curtain, because if you don't believe in your story, and your ability to tell it, it never will.

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 No.13417

>>13415

I have nothing to say about what this poster has said, only a little to add. Ahem.

"In a nation that has developed to a high art advertising, the creator who refuses to advertise himself is immediately suspected of having no product worth selling." ~Vidal

He also dropped a hint about not bothering to ask where are the great writers. Ask instead, where are the readers?

Where are your readers?

If you are going to lay down some new and creative first class Sonic fanfic ablatheration, you also want to find the people who read this stuff. What do they like? What stories are popular? Why? Analyze.

Can you do that?

It's all quite humbling.

It's all the same for journalists chasing whatever gigs, and neophyte freelancers hunting their first rag fix.

This is also why you want to start with short stories. Until you are able to identify techniques properly used by other writers, and take them out for a thorough test drive of your own, you are not ready to be read.

As for self-promotion? Go buy some 8Chan advertisements and ….

Finish complete a written something, first.

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 No.13524

>>13417

Fuck off with your Reddit spacing, this was painful to read.

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 No.13682

>>13398

agreed

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