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File: 7ec642bf2f4e7bf⋯.png (284.23 KB, 350x503, 350:503, fuckcommunism.png)

 No.13525[Reply]

we all know that the future of literature is going to look a lot more like 8chan than the New Yorker, which is why I started a magazine for writers, cartoonists, scholars and shitposters called Dagger. It comes out in both digital and a full-color, glossy print edition. you can check it out at www.daggermag.com and please please please hit me up with pitches or submissions.

I've been a professional writer for about five years now, and lemme tell you, the publishing industry is looking bleak. It's totally screwed down by monied interests and it's shrinking, quarter by quarter, into total irrelevance. I've been told, while interviewing for staff jobs, that my duty will be to "help elect democrats." which is the opposite of what this is all supposed to be about. dagger has a small audience but it isn't co-opted, and our first print issue has work from William Burroughs, an interview with John Carpenter and artwork by some excellent pro illustrators – including Billy Norrby, who did the cover. lemme know what you think

www.daggermag.com

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 No.13649

>>13595

What the fuck are you talking about?

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 No.13655

File: 1a76d9ce70f9aeb⋯.jpg (40.65 KB, 480x400, 6:5, graffiti.jpg)

This is the kind of magazine I want to read and write for. I'll be submitting my amatuer shit at some point. Thanks anon.

Though if it's alright with you I'll submit with proper grammar and punctuation, and you can edit it as you see fit. Pic related.

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 No.13657

>>13649

Hint: take a peek at the guidelines and FAQ, and try some page refreshing.

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 No.13660

>>13526

That evidence should have the opposite conclusion. Do you pay for porn?

>>13657

If you mean the extra thoughts page being gone, this magazine does sound like something the BO said he would like.

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 No.13668

>>13660

>>13657

Why would I care?

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File: 8b9a7d17515ddc0⋯.jpg (20.99 KB, 230x331, 230:331, Louis_Althusser_sketch_(84….jpg)

 No.13569[Reply]

he seems like every leftcomm's nightmare.

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 No.13661

>>13659

The actual base of /leftypol/ is almost entirely made up of third positionists, and left communists. Everyone else is just edgy reddit liberals that heard about /leftypol/ on youtube.

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 No.13662

>>13661

/leftypol/

IS NAZBOL

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 No.13665

File: 5eb2b46cbfaca00⋯.jpg (11.01 KB, 243x208, 243:208, download.jpg)

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 No.13671

>>13640

>"hurr durr nuh uhhh, das not wright"

>pure emotional knee-jerk reaction and doesn't know anything about the related subject

/leftypol/ for sure

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 No.13885

>>13665

YAAAS

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File: 66c7cd0082cffdb⋯.jpg (53.65 KB, 564x751, 564:751, f505811030ec73c3c12f06ccbf….jpg)

 No.13405[Reply]

I used to read a lot as a kid, mainly Sci-Fi and adventures but really all sorts of topic, however, as I grew up I basically dropped the habit.

Now in my early twenties I want to get back to it and more seriously this time around: any advice? Should I start with the classics or look for some more contemporary writers? Any books you might recommend? Thanks in advance!

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 No.13486

>>13477

Did you make your posts in this thread through the hidden service?

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 No.13488

File: dc7fa44a0777e37⋯.jpg (44.68 KB, 426x676, 213:338, L.N.S. The Wardove.jpg)

>>13486

Both hidden service (or onion site as I say) or an open clearnet IP. It's only attempting to post while signed in to mod.php via Tor that is an issue because it insists on forwarding Tor to the onion site. And the onion site does not work with mod.php.

>>13405

Sorry for the thread hijack, OP. The slow nature of 8Chan /lit/ is such that board meta banter tends to wander in to unrelated threads from time to time. What is verboten elsewhere works for us.

Some Sci-fi suggestions:

1. The Wardove. A detective noir in space.

2. The Forge of the Elders. A zany admixture of Sci-fi tropes spiced with comedic satire.

Smith writes through a libertarian lens. Even so, I find his style a good example of how to write political slant (of any form, not just libertarian) in fiction. A novel is not an essay nor a tract, and reader who dismisses the slant with a Scottish verdict should still have plenty left over to thoroughly enjoy.

Iain M. Banks is another author you should probably become familiar with. His writing gives me the impression of a 1970s Sci-fi TV story writer cut free from the cold dead hand of Standards and Practice censorship, and left alone to pursue a healthy dose of adult themes. Opinions vary on what are his best works. Serving as an introduction my suggestions are plainly conventional:

1. Consider Phlebas.

2. Use of Weapons.

Outside of Sci-fi, I'm not sure what to recommend as your interests and leanings are unknown.

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 No.13490

>>13488

>Iain M. Banks

I really enjoyed Feersum Endjinn even if I was only turned on to him because he was one of Nihei's inspiration for Blame! which is very apparent when you read his descriptions of Serehfa Fastness, the casstle the size of a country.

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 No.13491

File: 8c0fb0bea475df9⋯.jpg (269.97 KB, 1307x2000, 1307:2000, 9788408043645.jpg)

>>13454

I find Marquez really enjoyable too! Many of his novels are among my favorites. I appreciate the recommendations.

>>13459

That's very interesting. Thank you for sharing!

>>13488

>Sorry for the thread hijack

It's perfectly fine. Detective noir in space? I gotta get me some of that! Your recommendations sound pretty good, I'll have to check 'em out.

Beside Sci-Fi, I'm very much into mystery and crime novels, a little bit of fantasy as well. Pic related, Zafon's The Shadow of the Wind is very likely to be my favorite novel ever. I enjoyed Larsson's millenium trillogy too, just to mention something else.

>>13490

>he was one of Nihei's inspiration for Blame!

Shoot, that so? That just doubled my interest.

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 No.13643

>>13491

La sombra del viento it's a piece of shit my man.

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File: 1090d2f638e4c02⋯.jpg (24.83 KB, 208x320, 13:20, 51mI9Ml1 yL._AC_UL320_SR20….jpg)

 No.13633[Reply]

What's the significance of this book's ending?

What was she trying to do here?

Was she trying to make a point more significant than "life under totalitarianism is precarious"?

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File: adebae2c973b121⋯.png (55.2 KB, 124x170, 62:85, Sir Perceval.png)

 No.12599[Reply]

Was he autistic?

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 No.12619

>>12617

Basically what this guy said >>12618. Chretien wrote five Arthurian romances you can probably find a compilation of all of them to read. None of them are particularly long, about 6000 lines each. They're a good way of getting into medieval knight literature. If you like the romantic aspect, read the Lais of Marie de France. If you like the knightly combat read the Song of Roland.

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 No.12622

>>12618

>>12619

that's great news to me.

i actually own a collection of chretien's works, but of course i haven't read it.

you know how used books markets are, if you lose the chance, you'll hardly get another…

thanks guys.

and i'm quite familiar with the song of roland.

it's sort of mandatory reading in my school system, especially because these two

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orlando_Innamorato

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orlando_Furioso

were written by two people from my home town.

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 No.13547

>>12612

Doesn't sound autistic to me.

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 No.13553

>>12622

So you're Portuguese?

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 No.13584

>>12622

>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orlando_Innamorato

>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orlando_Furioso

These are really good. Probably the best examples of how to do parody while also having a genuinely intriguing story and characters. You've probably read this already, but if not you should definitely check this one out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerusalem_Delivered

It's my personal favorite epic poem, though I admit it's not perfect.

>>13547

It's more the way talks and interprets things. Like when a guy tells him not ask questions all the time, he interprets it as "I'm never allowed to ask any kind of question ever again." Or when his mom tells him never to take more than a kiss and a ring from a lady, he interprets it as "I have to kiss all the women I meet and take their rings whether they want me to or not."

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File: 3e1dc59b8f701ec⋯.jpg (64.26 KB, 600x450, 4:3, Glory.jpg)

 No.13574[Reply]

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 No.13576

File: 3e04dd90d44c744⋯.jpg (28.63 KB, 500x450, 10:9, Jesus On White Horse.jpg)

File: 615d61b85209191⋯.jpg (29.19 KB, 500x450, 10:9, Jesus.jpg)

File: 57cd6d7a59b7e6f⋯.jpg (20.02 KB, 500x420, 25:21, Jesus Calling.jpg)

File: 7f8c43cf4341435⋯.jpg (17.71 KB, 500x420, 25:21, Christ.jpg)

File: 89c45d298dc3f9b⋯.jpg (302.92 KB, 800x600, 4:3, Father.jpg)

Thank you for the suggestions!

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 No.13581

This guy spams threads like this on every board, including obvious honey pot shit like "EXPLOSIVES MANUALS" on /k/. I would not touch these links with a ten foot pole. If you actually want to post .pdfs here, you can do so.

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 No.13582

get this kike propaganda outta here faggot

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 No.13597

Thanks, OP. My old drive died so I'm building up my fantasy folder from scratch.

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 No.15387

>>13574

C.S. LEWIS

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File: 9e2af6b256bf3d6⋯.jpg (14.15 KB, 200x230, 20:23, Calderón-de-la-Barca[1].jpg)

 No.13208[Reply]

Leave this board and never return if any one of these apply to you:

>you read any form of genre fiction

>you barely know your classics

>you tend to believe that if you like a given work, it is justified on an artistic level

>you think everyone's opinion should be accepted and respected

>you speak a single language

>you read contemporary versions of Shakespeare or Milton

>you read for the plot

>you read for entertainment

>you rarely read nonfiction

>you don't have a solid grounding in philosophy

>you don't have at least have some understanding of the Three Tragedians and Homer

>you have little to no understanding of literature outside of your cultural horizon

>you have little to no understanding of literature within your own cultural horizon

>you mostly read contemporary literature

>you believe 'the author is dead'

>you make your literary analysis proceed from ideology

>you think intricate prose is 'pretentious' and that the author 'should just get to the point'

>your rarely read poetry

>you think Rhythm and Rhyme is just useless rules and laws restricting creativity

>you have a hard time explaining why you like a given work

>you have a hard time forming structured and relevant literary criticism

>you tend to refuse to judge works for yourself, rather relying on the opinions of literary authorities

>you rarely read for more than one or two hours straight

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 No.13279

>>13208

>In a nutshell: this is why you left halfchan.

Yeah.

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 No.13286

What's "classics"? You mean like classy caffes? I know like most of the ones in my town.

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 No.13561

>>13216

same here. fuck the OP.

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 No.14107

>>13208

What is a genre anyway, m'man?

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 No.14108

>>13272

Yes, these are more like it.

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File: b2ca9c0175d9680⋯.jpg (345.39 KB, 750x500, 3:2, writers_block.jpg)

 No.13489[Reply]

Should we have a writefag thread or is the board too dead for that?

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 No.13518

Was /lit/ always dead or there was a golden age?

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 No.13536

File: 948ff888ff19122⋯.png (114.48 KB, 380x288, 95:72, 1468197481332.png)

how about this:

http://diogn.es/u/214

?

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 No.13538

>>13536

Did you write it?

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 No.13548

>>13518

idk I just found about it, but since there's about 13,000 posts I'd assume it had to have been more active in the past.

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 No.13550

>>13548

Thirteen thousand, stretching back into 2014. Speaking in round numbers, 8Chan /lit/ generates a little more than four thousand posts a year. It was more active in the past being coupled with a wholesale migration attempt from 4Chan.

/lit/ is lively as a whole when viewed across several image-board sites. I suppose 8Chan, 4Chan, Lainchan, and Reddit combined constitute the vast majority of western literary image-board culture. This includes more than just the formally defined /lit/ boards on each respective site.

Where image-board culture falls flat is with writing studies. This art is almost entirely the purview of forums, be they fan-fictional or professional. Hybrid IRC analogues—Discord et. al.—make up all the rest. Such dedicated outlets are anathema to an image-board mindset.

I don't wish to be discouraging, but that's how it is.

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File: c3e45ea27f3d875⋯.jpeg (147.7 KB, 600x898, 300:449, 9781408855690_309036.jpeg)

 No.11355[Reply]

Why didn't Umbridge expel Harry after Dumbledore left the school?

She was now headmistress and had the power to do it. (since it was somewhat explained or at least alluded to that the headmaster would have final say on expelling students). And he was proven to have undermined her authority (since he was part of Dumbledores Army and the Educational decree for banning student groups risked expulsion).

So why didn't she do it?

It's still weird to me upon reading this book that Harry just gets off scott free from creating an illegal defense against the dark arts group.

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 No.11381

>>11364

>plot armour

>tvtropes.org

>Ruining one art-form at a time

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 No.11408

>>11355

>So why didn't she do it?

Wasn't the plan to get Harry to get himself thrown out of Hogwarts? It would do more damage to their damage control if they just upped and kicked him out, it wouldn't raised to many questions. That was the purpose of the Dementor attack at the beginning, and it was why Dumblrdore took credit for the creation of Dumbledore's Army, wasn't it?

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 No.11411

>>11408

>it would* raised

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 No.13532

>>11355

This book is full of plot holes and tragedies, the biggest one being the fact that it took 5 books to introduce Luna Lovegood. Also Unbridge thought Dumbledore made the D.A group, not Harry and his little carnival of dipshits.

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 No.13537

>pottershit

what are you, 15

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File: 8553141285b4292⋯.jpg (2.85 MB, 4128x2322, 16:9, JPEG_1505852729839.jpg)

 No.13511[Reply]

I like that guy.

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 No.13521

livre?

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 No.13873

He died on my birthday

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File: 436780a99b6b1ec⋯.jpg (221.29 KB, 432x648, 2:3, beyaz-tenli-kizlar_951317_….jpg)

 No.13400[Reply]

I have just started reading WOT (chpt.3) and am liking it so far. But while working I came up with an idea that will keep me reading it and on a schedule or at least keep reading on even during the down parts. I am looking for someone who is also interested in this book journey with me. We can start a chat on here or fb or twitter or wherever and talk about the events that have transpired in the book. We could set reading goals for the Week so we won't get to far ahead of each other or behind. If no one is interested that is fine I just thought it would be a cool idea. Also if more than one want to join in, the more the merrier!

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 No.13425

>>13400

Sorry, I'm reading completely different stuff. I do wish you luck on your journey, though!

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 No.13509

WOT? Robert Jordan's Wheel of Time? Jesus, anon. You might as well skip the series because the payoff isn't worth it. Seriously, you will feel like you wasted your time once you finished the series. If you are dead set on reading tomes and is into fantasy then just read the Malazan books.

Still, I hope you enjoy your time if you decide to persevere though.

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 No.13510

Nothing wrong with fishing about for a readers group.

I recently finished two novels by Prokosch, and I'm gathering my thoughts for a review of each. Am currently reading a sequel to a much earlier classic SciFi novel by Frederick Pohl. I want to drop all three reviews at once to balance things out a bit, high and low.

WoT was recommended to me many years ago. Problem now is I have a hell of a backlog of singlet novels I need to study. I'm not interested in committing to a series right now, although I intend to make a start on Dark Tower, or continue on with The Lunar Chronicles before the year is through.

Point is, there are active readers out here/there. Keep trying, and don't forget to post reviews as you go. Doing so might help to gather interest.

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File: 26b18ca29bf1dec⋯.png (185.79 KB, 602x401, 602:401, main-qimg-817b56b37260416b….png)

 No.13505[Reply]

I'm trying to find a good book to pair up with "The Big Lebowski". I have to think of a thesis and use two works to prove it one film and one book. So im thinking of doing something about the absurd life where life is meaningless so maybe camus or something. Any suggestions for a thesis or book much appreciated.

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 No.13506

Do 'The Stranger' by Camus. Similar plots where the unwilling protagonist is sucked into a difficult situation, and multiple parallel traits between Mersault and the Dude. I wrote a longer post, but chrome crashed so this is what you get haha

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 No.13507

>>13505

The go to for this stuff is probably Pynchon. The most closely related and readily linkable would be: Inherent Vice. Basically, you can pretty much pair up to Pynchon and pull a thesis outta your ass on damn near anything. The more freakish the better.

A very straightforward suggestion, shouldn't be hard at all to connect with the movie and thesisize something simple: Bukowski's Pulp.

If you want to dive in and entertain your professor with the really unexpected, you need to find the work of a serious hare-core literary prick who wasn't keen on the whole postmodernism shtick. Not keen, as in not liking them at all because the postmodernist style of novels were moving toward a likeness of piss boring encyclopedias. Not liking them at all, as in would occasionally write a postmodern novel just to prove this style can be wrought with proper readerly fun. So, go have a look at Gore Vidal. Linking to Duluth is a home run in the making, but you're gonna have to work for it.

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File: 13e7e49daaec784⋯.jpg (107.77 KB, 500x500, 1:1, 1346271892434.jpg)

 No.13480[Reply]

In the last 5 years I've become an avid reader (mostly classics because everything else is too expensive for a poorfag) and perhaps as a result I wanted to try my hand at writing something of my own. Now, writing for yourself as a practice is nice and all but how do you put your work out there? I don't mean putting it straight on shelves, but you know, just evaluated. Are there any amateur writefags sites? For example, there's a site called silent-manga-auditions where professional mangaka judge amateur manga anyone can send in. Is there something like that for writefags, some contests? You also hear about authors of yore writing for serial publications, like Weird Tales etc., where you basically send your work and if it's acceptable they publish it, do such things exist nowadays?

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 No.13483

>>13480

what are lit magazines and journals?

look for something local and try to be published in it two or three times consecutively. Editors of very small presses will usually send you personal rejection letters and with them suggestions to improve the work.

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 No.13484

>>13483

>what are lit magazines and journals?

That's what I'm asking about. I don't know of any.

There isn't anything local where I live, are there any online magazines?

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 No.13461[Reply]

Is it really that bad?

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 No.13462

File: 1b2d525716acbc2⋯.png (23.47 KB, 663x663, 1:1, Wattpad_logo.png)

Is really that bad?

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 No.13464

Bad in what way?

It's predominantly a site where you post fanfiction if you're a 14 yr old girl. There's nothing good about it but it's not the end of the world.

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 No.13465

>>13461

>>13462

>>13464

8Chan is currently going through one of its periodic chantacular fucking meltdowns upgrade cycles. I suspect that's why the OP flubbed the initial post. No biggie.

Wattpad is a beginners writing site. As such, it fills a useful purpose. It's not all fanfiction all the time but … yeah. Popular genera there.

Scribophile is on the other end of the scale, and is most certainly not intended for beginners.

Fimfiction anyone?

"Are you happier eating a potato than a bowl of rice? I don’t know. It’s all the same. … Writing is writing. Writing is order in sentences and order in sentences is always the same in that it is always different, which is why it is so interesting to do it. I never get bored with writing sentences, and you never master it and it is always a surprise—you never know what’s going to come next." ~ Gore Vidal

He wasn't specifically referring to amateur publishing sites but whatever. They're all tools. Make use of them. Don't forget to reserve a moment or two for a good laugh at the chaff as well.

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 No.13469

>>13465

>8Chan is currently going through one of its periodic chantacular fucking meltdowns upgrade cycles.

fuckin is it what

Thanks for the linx

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 No.13359[Reply]

I'm writing a general-knowledge non-fiction book. Any ideas?

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 No.13381

>>13361

lol herman get off 8chan!!

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 No.13383

File: edd309229df4260⋯.jpg (224.69 KB, 866x575, 866:575, Herrmann, Richard.jpg)

>>13368

This.

Depending on what topic you are writing on, it might require a lot of research, digging through sources and doing fact-checking and including footnotes and explanatory notes.

Richard Herrmann, a Norwegian news correspondent in London, wrote several highly entertaining non-fiction books about daily life in England, famous court cases from Old Bailey, the history of London, and British monarchs. His inclusion of humour, and including all kinds of interesting lesser known events of history, as well as the less flattering events and characteristics. I think his wit and sense of humour helped greatly in making history more accessible to the general public.

I am currently working on a genealogical book, and the amount of fact-checking, research and proofreading is very high – I don’t want to have to release corrections after I’m finished.

The contents are almost exclusively names (often with several spelling-variants in the various sources) and dates and biographical facts, so compiling these facts take up a lot of time before I can try to make a coherent list of ancestors and descendants. I am also planning on having several ahnentafel and family trees, which also requires a lot of fact checking.

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 No.13437

File: aa38938629e5029⋯.jpg (91.85 KB, 500x751, 500:751, large.jpg)

>>13359

>general-knowledge non fiction book

What did he mean by this? Like an encyclopedia?

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 No.13439

>>13437

Probably something like what kids sometimes have? Just some basic knowledge about everything, on a level kids can understand. Like some of the books I read at that age.

I don't see this working for adults, however. No adult who doesn't know shit about anything would be willing or capable of learning it later.

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 No.13468

File: 313195f2d4ca12b⋯.mp4 (322.52 KB, 1162x480, 581:240, anal-retentive.mp4)

>>13383

>I don’t want to have to release corrections after I’m finished

This should be the baseline goal of ANY author

Helps to already be anally-retentive.

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