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File: 2ff3db3925c214b⋯.mp4 (245.06 KB, 640x360, 16:9, churchill.mp4)

 No.13435[Reply]

How should I work to improve my prose? I'm writing nearly every day, but I'm looking to accelerate my work. My prose is pretty mediocre right now, but I want to polish it into something marvelous.

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 No.13440

This is such a general question there is literally no answer possible. Post your work and someone might give accurate advice on what you can keep in mind when writing.

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 No.13441

>>13440

One could give some useless general advice such as read your shit out loud, write poetry to widen your vocabulary and develope your sense of rythm, and really think what makes prose you and other people think is good good.

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 No.13444

How would you define high level prose vs casual prose?

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 No.13445

>>13435

You learn how to write well by being exposed to good writing. Find a book you feel has good prose and actively try to steal the author's style.

>>13444

Like the difference between literature and Literature, it is difficult to define. All I know is that you should be able to recognize it if you see it.

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 No.13456

If you post a sample I can give you feedback. Otherwise my only advice is to try to practice imitating a variety of authors with styles you enjoy until you find what fits you best.

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File: debdd1ff8443864⋯.jpg (6.32 KB, 128x128, 1:1, spoiler.jpg)

 No.12879[Reply]

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 No.12937

>go there

>see gorilla mindset

nope

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 No.12955

>>12929

The secret is: just be urself

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 No.12965

>>12955

The Secret is: the biggest and most popular rip-off of The Kybalion!

anybody else getting into hermetics and occultism lately? my mind still feels sterile, and my surreal imagination no longer serves me. I don't think I'll ever have trouble staying secular tho

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 No.13213

I dont there is a point in yet another board when this site still needs to grow. It was a clever thing to do in 4chan, not here.

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 No.13455

…or we could just go on /lit/ for literature and /fit/ for fitness.

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File: 6677c0f2787510b⋯.png (582.9 KB, 1160x629, 1160:629, f2023aa884bd9568dd2a2143d1….png)

 No.13251[Reply]

Is Pajama Boy: A Life Truly Lived by JK Rowling biblo?

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 No.13257

>>13251

of coursh.

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 No.13302

>>13257

hooray!

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 No.13397

>>13257

yayng yang yayng hoorang!

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File: c9476ab180e8415⋯.jpg (316.81 KB, 1024x658, 512:329, IMG_2288.JPG)

 No.12523[Reply]

How do I write a financially successful novel, /lit/

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 No.13341

>>12523

Write for 13-year-olds and sell it for 30-year-olds

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 No.13346

Don't write a novel, write the next Homestuck.

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 No.13393

>>13341

That wouldn't work, the only reason Harry Potter had such a large adult fanbase was because the book series spanned on for about 10 years , meaning someone who was in middle school when Sorcerer's Stone came out was on his way to college by the time Deathly Hallows was out. Also, nostalgia.

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 No.13394

>>13393

If you mixed together the most popular ideas, characters and tropes and shamelessly pandered to the SJW/regressive crowd and played nostalgia, you could probably pull off the 13 for 30 ploy.

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 No.13479

>>13393

>Sorcerer's Stone

get out

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File: da78ab1301912b7⋯.png (458.76 KB, 903x603, 301:201, dbscary.PNG)

 No.13356[Reply]

I'm not a nigger, so I already read regularly, but I would like to be able to retain more information from what I do read.

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 No.13382

>>13356

>tfw going to use this line regularly, even when stating i aint a darky is completely irreleveant

>or is it??

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 No.13386

>>13356

Think about what you're reading. Refute the stupid shit in your head as you read, incorporate the good stuff into your worldview, note the facts that just don't fit into your narrative at all and make them a topic of further inquiry, and so on. If it helps you, make notes or write down what you have learned after every fifty pages.

Figure out at which points and under what circumstances your brain tries to shut down. When that happens, read more consciously and thoroughly and lower your pace, and consider going back a few paragraphs or more to figure out where you lost your train of thought. Your eventual goal should be not to have to go back at all, but of course, that's an ideal.

As you acquire more self-esteem, consider that who you're reading may just be a redundant, confused and overcomplicated asshole. Not gonna name anyone specific, but goddamn John Rawls. To be fair, though, I also had that impression when I started reading Anthony de Jasay, but then halfway through began to like him. So don't take a shitty writing style as an excuse to just stop engaging the book at all.

Reading is more interactive than you may think. It's more interactive than most lectures, in my experience.

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 No.13389

>>13386

>>13357

How do you improve attention span? How do you avoid things like internet and vidya and devote time to reading?

I'm currently reading Mein Kampf and a book about the Katyn Massacre. Didn't finish Evola's "Ride the Tiger" because it was kind of esoteric and went in out and out of abstractions, at least while I tried to focus on it.

I enjoy things like Thomas Pynchon and DFW fiction-wise.

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 No.13390

>>13389

Me, I didn't really "devote" time to reading. In university, I've read on the bus, in between lectures, and often another hour later when I was home. I've split my reading up and just focused on the page number, which gave me a benchmark to work for. My aim was one textbook per week. How exactly I allocated my time to it wasn't important as long as I got everything done.

This may not work for you, but you can give it a try. Just set a goal and reach it. Doesn't matter if you read in between loading screens, on the bus, or while cooking, you just get it done. Eventually, it will become a habit. Then all you have to do is ensure you also understand what you're reading, but I talked about that above.

>I'm currently reading Mein Kampf and a book about the Katyn Massacre.

That's decent for a start. Just remember to go out every once in a while to read something you believe you will fundamentally disagree with. That may be extremely painful, but it's immensely valuable. Playing devils advocate this way isn't necessary often, maybe once every three books in the beginning when your views are still fresh and once every ten when they're reinforced against criticism. That's a rough guideline, of course. An 800-page treatise will likely be more illuminating than five smaller books, and books also aren't the only source of wisdom and personal conviction, so don't treat them as an accounting tool. I do that sometimes for the sake of expediency, but you shouldn't. Trust me on that.

>Didn't finish Evola's "Ride the Tiger" because it was kind of esoteric and went in out and out of abstractions, at least while I tried to focus on it.

Well, reading is a skill like any other. Train it, and work on your knowledge base, and then you can come back to Evola.

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 No.13392

File: 1c8d0cac757f920⋯.png (1.25 MB, 994x4724, 497:2362, evola guide.png)

>>13386

>Figure out at which points and under what circumstances your brain tries to shut down.

For me, a good heuristic is when I start to lose the rhythm and meter of what I'm reading. It's around this point that I start to gloss over words and eventually entire passages. It's probably not a great idea to force yourself to mentally verbalize everything you read, but I use it when I have trouble processing something I'm reading.

>>13389

Ride the Tiger is a bad place to start Evola. You have to get a handle on the esoteric first to really understand him.

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File: 400362d3ebcb155⋯.jpeg (58.03 KB, 642x546, 107:91, 400362d3ebcb155fea34f9b10….jpeg)

 No.13252[Reply]

When does something become considered high literature? Who decides this and what are the qualifications?

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 No.13295

Timelessness.

1. Doesn't require cultural context outside of the work itself, or requires absolutely minimal experience/context.

2. Reflects eternal truths/archetypes

3. Word and grammar choice reflects the art, working knowledge of the English language to concisely and impactfully convey meaning rather than simply appeal to a mass/target audience

4. The plot and character arcs are considered and planned, not shoehorned in any way to fit the writer's intentions (nothing is forced)

Lord of the Rings is an excellent example of high literature.

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 No.13297

>>13295

>Lord of the Rings is an excellent example of high literature.

i bet some critics would disagree with you.

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 No.13304

>>13297

You could find critics that disagree with you about ever damn thing in this planet. There is, for example, no lack of critics that claim the world is flat. Lords of the Rings is Literature.

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 No.13348

>>13252

when all the assholes in the room nod in agreement

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 No.13380

>>13348

Probably best answer in thread :)

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 No.13343[Reply]

Know any /k/ type books with/pol/ themes?

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 No.13352

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File: 254b1a4169d793f⋯.jpg (203.87 KB, 1035x1300, 207:260, Conan-the-Barbarian.jpg)

 No.13316[Reply]

why was the pulp fiction era the best for fantasy?

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 No.13317

>>13316

Hell if I knew, but Conan was fucking bae.

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 No.13318

Because fantasy wasn't really a codified genre back then, but a way to describe stories. The writers were free to ape what ever they wanted, instead of aping shit that was already called fantasy, leading to higher quality influences. Like Howard, who wanted to write violent poetry and historical fiction, but ended up writing fantastic tales (for several reasons, including monetary).

When writers started writing what they thought fantasy was supposed to be, it quickly became increasingly inbred circle jerking. The whole "genre" is a poor joke now, with supposed subversions being more generic than early examples of it.

But to be fair, the effect that only good things are remembered in later times applies here. A lot of pulp era stuff was horrible garbage, and I bet there's good fantasy being written somewhere right now that will be noticed only decades later.

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 No.13319

>>13316

probably because there was no tv and that was the best form of entertainment available. tons and tons of stuff produced. 99% of it, utter crap, the rest is what remained.

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 No.13320

>>13319

btw i'm not saying that tv is the best form of entertainment. just saying that pulp intended audience most likely migrated to tv en masse as soon as they could afford it. as far as i'm concerned the crap-good stuff ratio is still 99 to 1.

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File: 6c5d6000e273846⋯.jpg (135.91 KB, 1242x2208, 9:16, 8CqB3AK.jpg)

 No.13306[Reply]

How do I write essays like the aspie from link:

http://lookism.net/Thread-This-post-by-Orb-aspiemogs-most-of-this-forum

How do you get to this level of english?

srs answers please

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 No.13307

Plagiarism is quite effective. If your edits are not too obvious, no one will check.

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 No.13308

>>13307

No I mean like when you read this aspies writing you can sense that he is high in or has a high understanding of english, how do I become like that to were I can write on that manner?

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 No.13311

>>13308

I can sense that he credits looks and wants and consciousness way above their relevance. It's hard to tell how good he's talking without taking the first steps to understanding it.

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File: bd5917bfd15e82f⋯.jpg (92.37 KB, 800x500, 8:5, 1496897983.jpg)

 No.12874[Reply]

Not much of a /lit/ person, and I have an embarrassing itch need for a (complete, or nearly so) list of abstract nouns in the English language, as well as lists of other categories of words if possible. I have been unable to find anything via search engines. Can anyone point me to a good resource?

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 No.12940

>>12932

>Some day I will be a famous author and your children and grandchildren will have to read my books in high school.

ok, i'll remember your name…anonymous, right?

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 No.13291

File: aa38938629e5029⋯.jpg (91.85 KB, 500x751, 500:751, large.jpg)

For once, OP is not a faggot. This is actually a really interesting topic.

Abstract nouns are the result of what is known in linguistics as normalization. This is when a word which is not a noun, is expressed as a noun.

There are different ways normalization can occur.

In the case of the verb love, it can be normalized without morphological transformation. Love (verb) -> Love (abstract noun).

The verbs legalize and sublimate normalize to legalization and sublimation. This is an example of a common and recognizable transformation in English for verbs: -e -> -ation.

The most common and recognizable normalization morphological transformation pattern for adjectives on the other hand is the suffixation of the morpheme -ness, such as in cuteness .

There are also lots of irregular normalized nouns, like integrity, treachery, grief etc.

So I guess you could just look up a complete list of adjectives, verbs and adverbs, and normalize them.

Here is a website with a list of adjectives to start:

http://adjectivesstarting.com/

You could probably even find or write a python script that:

A. Receives a verb, adjective, or adverb.

B. Identifies the necesary morpological transformation.

C. Outputs the abstract noun.

Then you would just have to give the program the lists of adjectives, verbs and adverbs as input, and then you would have your complete list of abstract nouns.

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 No.13296

>>12932

Those look like the stacked metaphors that Orwell denounced. Please don't write like that.

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 No.13301

>>13291

Smoking is not moe! Don't do that!

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 No.13310

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>>13301

I've been getting that a lot.

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File: 4ad144dc8a18420⋯.png (564.38 KB, 595x848, 595:848, technologicalsociety.png)

 No.12611[Reply]

Just started reading The Technological Society by Jacques Ellul. I have no clue what he means by the word "technique" could you guys help me understand what he means by this?

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 No.12616

>>12611

Could you post an example?

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 No.13265

Haven't read him (yet), only read works that reference Ellul, but I imagine it's related to the notion of "management". There's no room for secrets and chance, everything has to be made transparent and integrated into the system in order to be better regulated. And "technique" is a certain way of doing that, of making things operational.

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 No.13268

>>12611

is the definition of the dictionary so ill fitting?

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 No.13220[Reply]

Is Timeline by Michael Crichton biblo?

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 No.13246

never heard of it

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 No.13247

Like most Crichton, it's an entertaining and enjoyable sci-fi thriller (though Timeline is more like historical fiction too), but it's not "high literature".

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 No.13478

It's prime Crichton, so it's highly entertaining without stooping into embarrassing garbage like late Crichton.

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 No.12662[Reply]

What's the weirdest reason you've ever dropped a book, /lit/?

Years ago I dropped Pynchon entirely because I couldn't stand the little song numbers inserted into his works. Felt like nails on a chalkboard for some reason. I'm glad I picked him back up later, but they still annoy me.

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 No.12663

I was minding my own business in a Philadelphia area public library, researching some background material on a certain patrician American author, when one of the local entrepreneurial personal entertainment professionals disturbed my efforts. She laid herself out on the library table in front of me, advertising her services. Quite pretty she was, and I enthusiastically agreed to allay her current accounting related difficulties. So we retired to a comfy little mid-town hotel room for the remainder of the afternoon, and early evening.

I traded off my task of finishing "Vidal in Venice" to another. After reading her review here, I'm not inclined to pick it up again.

I regularly visit that same library, though.

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 No.12665

File: 4255f84f57b5a80⋯.jpg (30.12 KB, 400x400, 1:1, enough.jpg)

While juggling. Pick out a bunch at once, start each, only the very beginning, and then choose which to catch. It works well for discarding obvious red flags, but the effect I got was the opposite as I didn't believe all of them were the way they were.

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 No.13215

>>12662

I dropped Huxley's Time must have a stop because i could not stand the pretension. I don't know how to put it into words, but i don't have any regrets. I barely drop books.

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 No.13233

>>12662

Honestly for someone who "eschews" formal structure his work is repetitive as fuck.

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 No.13244

>>12662

at times a book just feels wrong. for plenty of reasons, not necessarily the fact that i don't agree with it. i read plenty of books whose message i hated from cover to cover.

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File: 3b649d9cb2b9c71⋯.jpeg (145.42 KB, 950x534, 475:267, gettyimages-113976531.jpeg)

 No.12560[Reply]

Hi. I want to read Philip K. Dick, but I'm not sure where to begin. Which book should I start with? Which of his works are worth reading? Any background reading necessary that would enrich my experience? thanks fags

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 No.12610

test

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 No.12639

I liked A Scanner Darkly a lot, and also THe Man in the High Castle

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 No.12648

I would read him but I think he is obsolete just like cyberpunk

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 No.13241

basically a lot of "must-reads" predated the cyberpunk movement.

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 No.13242

>>13241

which as >>12648 said, got obsolete fast.

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 No.11440[Reply]

What's the best book to read that can help me get back into reading while enriching me culturally?

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 No.11481

File: 3607826dcfc1b70⋯.gif (1.23 MB, 221x206, 221:206, check 'em!.gif)

>>11477

Okay, that was hilarious!

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 No.11664

>>11477

TITLE!!!!

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 No.11668

>>11664

Heartbreaker by De'nesha Diamond

ISBN: 9780758246639

I can't find a pirate copy of it. I can find cheap paperback copies and the kindle version is like $5.

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 No.11669

>>11668

>>11664

Didn't notice that they were two different books the first time. The information provided is for the second book pictured. The first book is

From Nickels to Ounces by Deandre Otis Surrell

ISBN: 9781462893034

I also can't find a pirate copy of this one.

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>>11440

You should start with the greeks. Joke, see pic. The advantage of these books is that they are both fast and easy to read, not to talk about their relevance.

But if you cannot even start with a book, i could recommend you good short stories.

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