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File: 6d4497cad9c29dd⋯.jpg (294.77 KB, 2086x1294, 1043:647, 1520161926321.jpg)

 No.15555[Reply]

i read brothers karamazov and it was the worst 2 hours of my life tbh.

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 No.16426

I'm halfway through it after 20 mins and I can confirm. Alexei bits are so fucking annoying.

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 No.16441

>>15555

>people falling for the bait this easily

>>16426

i disagree, the annoying parts are where dostoevsky decides to tell you about the story of an elder monk or a bunch of schoolboys

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 No.16443

I read crime and punishment but in the 5 years since I have gotten bored with karamazov

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 No.16493

File: 09cb21d2e846589⋯.png (230.72 KB, 1159x665, 61:35, the soy.png)

>wtf, who's even the bad guy?

>where are the sex scenes?!

>OMG! it's, like, totally religious and stuff! gross!

>how can I sympathize with all these evil russian hackers???!!!

>LOL, that stupid dead white guy could have spread this out into at least 18 books!

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 No.16500

>>16493

this sounds like my kind of book

thanks for the short description, anon

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File: 3c409f3d0fb1f90⋯.jpg (12.03 KB, 250x300, 5:6, 87984-004-5ADE9ACA.jpg)

 No.15479[Reply]

Mine's Existentialist Aristotelianism

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 No.16421

File: a0fe77878a431d2⋯.jpg (34.27 KB, 324x324, 1:1, image.JPG)

I have my own syncretic belief system that draws mostly from

Atheism

Soviet jewry

Islam

Aum Shinrikyo

Stalinist Banditry (SB) - [specifically his defence of Tsaritsyn aka Stalingrad during the civil war]

I call it

The Dragon Cult

The core belief is that there is a dragon and it only worships gold.

Everything else is up for the cultist to determine.

It can only be described as a cult of ochre lensed lofty actions. It is not romantic because it does not predicate itself on literature or art. Mostly actions.

Also read about m-theory. Branes and strings are so complex that worrying about political action to your detriment is ludicrous. Just work on yourself and the rest will come.

>>15542

He just fucked your argument in the ass bro. You got sodomized.

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 No.16424

hi /φ/!

what's the best primer on/survey of philosophy?

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 No.16425

p-bump

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 No.16452

>>16420

>Pretentiousism

interesting

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 No.16498

>>16424

Just read every philosopher's works in chronological order dipshit.

http://www.albumangelorum.com

>>15485

Were you raped? My condolences.

>>15487

So you're the architect of your own being. Are you OCD and accomplish very little in general, and maybe some highly specific but critically flawed or deficient achievements? Are you the "I COULD but I DON'T" type? Are all your experience points spent on this philosophy? Did you make a terrible mistake in following through on this character idea? Should we reroll?

>>15488

So when do you autism and when do you don't? Does your autism seek redemption from its Evolian hell; is this the struggle that gives your life meaning? Is all redemption incomplete, illusory and self-deceiving, and thus you must reduce yourself to your most autistic evolianism, to start over again from scratch, to map hell to earth in completeness? Will you then transcend up to a comfortable purgatory and become an Egoistic Hermeticist with Stoic elements that believes that objects partake in irreducible Platonic concepts in order to gain "being"?

>>15493

Is this Evolian Autism?

>>15494

An absolute egoic joker and provocateur (madlad)?

>>15503

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File: 529546c344d131e⋯.jpg (415.11 KB, 1280x856, 160:107, 19999.jpg)

 No.16445[Reply]

I'm writing a short novel. Let me show ya a little passage so you guys can get interested.

John's face was always gloomy. When someone asked him a question, he would answer monosyllabically or pretend to be deaf. He'd never look into one's eyes, and his sweaty, limp hand felt like a sponge when he had to extend it to greet a new co-worker. His life was divided between his home and the office. He spent the weekends sitting on the old couch in front of the television, reading the late newspapers and drinking beer.

No one liked John except Martha, who thought he was a true gentleman. Finally, one day, he ended up inviting her to dinner. Marta blushed when she received the invitation, her heart pounding as she couldn't help but let out a shy smile from her lips. She swallowed and agreed day and time.

Two hours before the meeting, Marta took a long bath with scented salts and applied a hydrating mask on her face. She brushed her hair for a long time, but in the end decided to make a relaxed bun. She painted her eyes, stretched her lashes and intensified her lips with red lipstick, dressing in a tight skirt and a slightly transparent silk blouse that she had saved for a special occasion.

Inside the cab, on the way to the restaurant, Marta tried to straighten a strand of hair that kept peeling off her bun, running her fingers across the skirt whilst looking intermittently at her makeup mirror as to touch up the lipstick.

Suddenly, a block to the restaurant, a thought crossed her mind. What if John had only invited her to talk about work issues? As she got out of the cab, Marta used a shop window as a makeshift mirror only to ponder whether her skirt was too tight, or her shirt too transparent.

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 No.16449

(Derp. Second post. First attempt created a new thread instead of a proper reply. Another pot, another go, just so.)

Taking a look and pondering a bit. My first impressions for what to critique seem to be running off the rails after a second read. I really should not try to do this right after I wake up. After a pot or two of coffee set to chasing away the fog, expect a subsequent commentary in the next four hours or so.

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 No.16450

Is this the very beginning of the story? If it is i would say i sort of like it but if not… hmmm depending how long of short write you're doing it could become a bit tedious maybe? That is if your rythym like this stays the same throughout. Thats just my worthless two cents though. I'm very overdue on sleep at the moment so i may be way off and it's vauge criticism anyhow. It's not terrible. I think you should write the whole thing and feel it out as a whole.

I just got quite the idea for a story earlier today and came here to ask some advice myself. I've never written anything outside of schoolwork really. I like the idea i came up with it's origional to me at least and i think it could be really fun. Don't want to reveal the premise. I was thinking i might write a short story of it since i'm a beginner. If anyone feels like giving a total nube a tip or two i would appreciate it. I'm thinking it's going to be a story where you think it's the current time and place but Plot Twist! You find out at the end it's not the current year or more precisely a near in the future setting at all. That's not the main point of the story though. It just drives the actual story home at the end.

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 No.16453

>>16445

>>16449

Ouffda. Whatta day and a night. Anyway, here's my late impressions.

The writing suffers from what I would call outlining disease. You are sketching characters out in flimsy first order detail. The problem with presenting characters like this is it starts to read like a laundry list.

>and his sweaty, limp hand felt like a sponge when he had to extend it to greet a new co-worker.

For example, you might try expanding this into a little scene describing how someone reacts to being handed a wet sponge of a handshake, without using "wet sponge" in your description.

>Suddenly, a block to the restaurant, …

I usually interpret this construction as a note from the writer to himself about something of importance in need of proper emphasis. A Freudian slip of sorts. Thing is, if you drop the "suddenly" you have what you want in basic form. I'd suspect you were in discovery writing mode at this point, which is perfectly fine. Going with the flow is one powerful writing technique to move forward. But, with the discovery method, you then need to go back and analyze with an eye to what you were really trying to communicate. Again, what does the need for suddenness mean? Obviously, she's suddenly hesitant, yes. Why? Stereotyped female behavior is cliche. If you imagine a bit as to why you felt the need to note its importance, you may discover a path to a more interesting character, a better means of characterization, an improved scene, avoidance of cliche (or how to better use cliche to your advantage), and a path to a better story.

Those are just my first impressions. I may be telescoping out my suspicions based on similarity other young writers typically demonstrate. It's hardly a fair analysis as there is not enough to go on. Don't be discouraged by my commentary. Keep writing.

I was thinking of suggesting some novels foPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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 No.16455

>>16445

>>16453

>laundry list

Yeah, that's what I got too. The rhythm of the story is bland and its details are (un/de)saturated. Unless this is an outline, the pacing is too rapid while, paradoxically, on an individual sentence level it's monotonous.

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 No.16479

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>>16445

Your sentences lack variation and depth, you are writing the woman section a lot better than your intro to the man but it lacks creativity. Is this man autistic or a killer or sleepy? Give us an anecdote or thought process for him other than

>What if John had only invited her to talk about work issues?

You shouldnt be writing novels in the style of Debbie Macomber unless you plan on writing 50 of them and having no soul

Pic related your equivalent

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File: 3cf440f187471d2⋯.png (535.15 KB, 1067x696, 1067:696, AdornoHorkheimerHabermasby….png)

 No.12183[Reply]

What's the best place to start exploring this great school of thought?

>inb4 muh Cultural Marxism

I'm not interested in your anti-intellectual bourgeoise conspiracy theories, /pol/.

I'm in for the pursuit of truth.

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 No.16462

If you're actually serious:

Marcuse - 1. Reason and Revolution 2. One Dimensional Man

Horkheimer - 1. Eclipse of Reason

Adorno - 1. Dialectic of Enlightenment 2. The Culture Industry

Benjamin - 1. The Work of Art in the Age of Mechanical Reproduction

After you've finished those off, make sure to get a nice 2x4 to beat yourself with until you've realized how much time you just wasted that could have been used reading actual philosophers.

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 No.16464

>>16462

>No Eros & Civilization

It's their most pertinent work to our time. Nobody can understand trannies without reading it.

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 No.16465

>>16460

Ok, leftypol

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 No.16468

>>16465

Did you just assume my gender?

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 No.16470

>>16468

I assumed you were a faggot of any kind. a big bundle of sticks

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 No.11913[Reply]

Do any of you have a way of ranking literature?

That is, do consider certain genres and styles of writing better than others?

Pic related is what I'd consider my ranking system, although it's very rough and still a work in progress. Feel free to edit it in ways you think are better and share your own personal rankings when you approach literature of any kind.

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 No.13753

>>11913

>horror is towards the top of the pyramid

Well, at least you're reading.

Have you finished your homework champ?

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 No.16431

>>13753 >>11913

horror is good when done right, but most "good" horror authors are doing tons of cookie cutter copy paste shit over and over again *cough* stephen king *cough* then it just doesnt feel special anymore, now its all the same, might as well read slice of life

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 No.16437

>>13330

Holy shit you are retarded

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 No.16463

believing in genres already puts you on the bottom floor of this pyramid

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 No.16467

>very good books

>good books

>ok books

>bad books

>shit books

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 No.16466[Reply]

So was Lolita actually not a lewd girl who deserved to die like the rest of the degenerates? Was it really in Humbert's head? Was I duped?

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 No.16475

yes

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 No.16454[Reply]

Who is the greatest writers of history par respective language sprachsbund

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 No.16459

Shakespeak was duech?

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 No.15344[Reply]

I'm genuinely baffled by the adoration for him. I've read his stories and don't understand the appeal. Could someone explain it? Brainlet here.

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 No.16396

File: 22c46a408bd2f8c⋯.png (562.49 KB, 742x557, 742:557, mielenterveyspotilaat.png)

Unless I have understood Lovecraft wrong, one of the best Lovecraftian works in recent history is unironically Japanese visual novel called Saya no Uta.

It is actually getting a Steam release this month, but I have no idea how much they're going to censor it.

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 No.16451

>>16396

I was going to read this even though I don't really care about VN's. Then some video I watched spoiled it for me and I lost all interest.

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 No.16456

>>16325

I personally don't think he is guilty of pushing for occultism, as opposed to painting witchcraft as destructive. My mom was always into weird occultish things, I've always had a hatred for it, and Lovecraft only solidified that for me.

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 No.16457

>>15344

reddit is that way

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 No.16458

>>16456

Ok so you're autistic; that doesn't make Lovecraft any less of an occultist.

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 No.16432[Reply]

I'm a moron who is trying to read more because my memory is garbage, and apparently reading can possibly help it. Are there any apocalyptic event books set in deep space, in the far future? I can find apocalyptic books, I can find deep space books, and I can find distant future books, but not one that combines all three.

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 No.16433

What do you mean by post-apocalypse, and deep space? There's a whole sub-genre about the barbaric age after the collapse of interstellar civilization, and stories about lost colonies are a plenty too.

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 No.16434

Not so much post-apocalypse, but the event itself. Like the book happens during it. The only comparison I can think of is Event Horizon, but it doesn't have to be horror, more sci-fi. Sorry if I'm not being clear, I'm not very good with words.

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 No.16435

I suspect this is not quite what you are looking for. I'll throw them out there anyway.

The original Foundation trilogy by Isaac Asimov. His short story magazine format may be easier for you to grasp being as it is somewhat repetitive. Most of the stories take place on planets though.

Consider Phlebas by Iain M. Banks. As I recall, themes ranging from "here it comes!" to exploring places long after an apocalypse run through this work.

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 No.16438

>>16434

I did read your post wrong, dumb me. You clearly stated apocalyptic event, not post-apocalyptic.

>Event Horizon

So by apocalyptic event you mean a catastrophe/major accident and by deep-space you mean happening in space instead of on a planet? You could try giving Blindsight a chance.

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 No.15941[Reply]

"a great book, tremendous read and trust me, I know good books”

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 No.15949

An amusing shoop.

Tarrant's missive is weirdly ironic, an argument in favor of immigration control that might provoke a reinterpretation in light of his acts. An "Australians go home!" backlash movement maybe?

His writing style speaks of a lack of maturity though not lacking in some self reflection. While remaining hopeful of an extensive global impact, he all but acknowledges his likely fate as a Charles Manson phenomenon: lingering, yet to be largely forgotten. Admitting to being a waste of time for a higher educational setting is nice, but the same could be said of his attempt at a grand tour with the world as his school. Having gained some appreciation of other lands and peoples is worthy of praise, yet he appears to have remained disconnected from them. He is content to substitute an eclectic grab bag of superficial obsessions with foreign events for understanding.

In short, he's no William T. Vollmann.

No need to skim the entire. If one can track down a copy (it should be everywhere by now) the gist of the whole can be had with just the first half. Weighing in at 74 pages (of mostly empty space) that first half makes for a five to ten minute read.

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 No.15951

>>15946

Definitely the latter. It's the quintessence of nu/pol/

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 No.15970

>>15946

It isn't even 100 pages. Just read it for yourself.

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 No.16430

you can read the thing in 2 hours>>15946

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 No.16436

Does it name the jew?

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 No.16184[Reply]

When are you going to write a book about Elliot Rodger?

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 No.16193

He ain't notable enough for a simple biography.

His manifesto would be cut in half by any semi-professional editor. I suspect it could be usefully reduced to a third in size.

The major lesson here is about mental heath and societal support systems. Alienation? Social isolation? Pain of rejection? All cliche. Walk into any homeless shelter and listen. It's all there. His story ain't nothing unique. People who identify with what he has to say willfully overlook key parts to his story in favor of his poorly articulated rage dump. The key parts aren't missing. Many an article, blog post, and essay thoroughly covered all the facets.

Desire you an expose of a self destructive life with keen observations on the nature of society and all its imposing faults, well exposed, and well said? Study Bukowski. Study John Horne Burns. Misfits from two ends of the social scale make for an enlightening comparison.

Finally, who would be the market for such a book? Our tiny niche of people most interested are also those most able to scan and file-share. That's assuming, by some miracle, a deal could be made to land copies on the dead tree graveyard of brick and mortar bookshelves. Not much left over for an ambitious counter cultural writer to live on even if money should change hands for every ebook read.

No thanks. I'll stick to writing made to order erotica.

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 No.16209

>>16193

Society doesn't care about men since ever

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 No.16211

I fulle agree with some opinions here. Who would be the market for such a book? Anyway if you gonna write such a book here some tips http://edusson.com/speech-writing-service for "young writers" :D By the way I am not sure there are a lot of people who really know about Elliot Rodger..

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 No.16215

who is that?

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 No.16429

mumkey jones wrote a diary of a wimpy kid parody of his manifesto, its like if his manifesto was like a diary of a wimpy kid book, look it up

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 No.13442[Reply]

Is Hemingway worth getting into? I read Old Man and the Sea back in high school but didn't really get a whole lot out of it. Where's a good place to get started with this faget?

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 No.13577

>>13442

How as Old Man and the Sea? My dad talks about it a lot and makes it sound pretty decent.

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 No.13583

>>13442

Read For Whom the Bell Tolls first. It's a classic tale of war. Then read A Farewell to Arms. Then read all his short stories, especially the Nick Adams tales but the collection The Snows of Kilimanjaro is excellent. Then go back and read The Old Man and The Sea.

That is the essential Hemingway in my recommended order. He is a maestro of action, of spare description and of understated honor.

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 No.13585

>>13442

>Is Hemingway worth getting into?

No.

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 No.16413

>>13577

It's pretty good. Read it once in school, then read it again while I went boating, for the sake of immersion. Classic man vs. nature story.

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 No.16428

>>13442

old man in the sea is mediocre, i haven't read any of his other books, and i do not plan on reading them

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 No.16298[Reply]

I'm looking for a book that guides you on how to survive the galaxy or even just earth. It would be really cool to find a mans guide to earth or the galaxy.

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 No.16422

meditations

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 No.16270[Reply]

There is a book that I read when I was 13 (26 now)… I can't remember the name of it, but I do remember the basic plot. IIRC, seemingly everybody in the world save for a single class of college students vanished. One of the characters had a twin sister who she had an empathic link with, and she felt her sister just disapear. Meanwhile, even animals vanished, and the students begin vanishing unless they have someone to love - One of the main characters vanished suddenly as well. It ends with the class essentially splitting into two groups, the degenerates who just want to fuck all day, and the main characters who fuck off in a private plane to some other location, trying to meet up with people who contacted them via radio signal.

Really bad synopsis, but its all I can remember, save for one part where one of the main characters says he hates acid jazz because you can't dance to it.

Anyone happen to know what book I'm talking about? I know it was the first part in a series, but other than that, I can't remember. I'd like to try and read it again, just to see if the parts I didn't understand when I was a kid would make sense now.

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 No.16419

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 No.16418[Reply]

Remember reading a book, but forgot its name? Was there a story that was described to you, but never got its name?

This thread can also double as a share thread for any rediscovered books.

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