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 No.16410[Reply]

is there anything, left/right/authoritarian/libertarian/dystopian/utopian out there I can read? I read 1984 as a kid and wasn't a big fan, and we all know Brave New World, but what else is out there.

also, no Tom Clancy shit, I want something dark at least, a series would be nice

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 No.9273[Reply]

Post your love for sci-fi and any books you want to attach for others to read.

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 No.15983

>>9278

Best classification guide I've come across is that science fiction portrays futures/worlds that are improbable, but possible. Fantasy portrays impossible worlds: so C. S. Lewis's Space Trilogy, although ostensibly sci-fi, is most definitely fantasy because they portray breathable atmospheres on Mars and Venus.

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 No.15984

>>9550

You should check out Iain M. Banks. His writing can be a bit clunky, but there are some good stories among his Culture works.

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 No.16280

File: 3b53ad9dd849a15⋯.jpg (1.26 MB, 3333x4961, 303:451, Tut and Alien stage 2.jpg)

Kill Tut by Max Wannow

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 No.16408

John Norman's Gor series has been a recent discovery of mine

>inb4 'incel' comments

the usuals, Phillip K. Dick, Isaac Asimov, Harlan Ellison (despite him being a prickly kike), Ray Bradbury, etc

never checked out Orson Scott Card, but I hear soys are boycotting him for hating on queers. his adaptations seem to be popular. I dunno is he fluff?

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 No.16409

>>9550

Asimov as far as jews go, is more tolerable than Ellison, I heard that dude went through friends like women go through tampons.

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 No.15832[Reply]

Book clubs never work!

Why this is going to work

I'm seen book clubs started on different boards and they always fail, which is why I created a reading club instead. No one wants to read a whole book of questionable interest every week, and no one can blame anons for not wanting to. My solution for this is to focus on short stories and novellas, so that plenty of anons have the time and will to finish.

You need more material to talk about than that

Thats a valid point and will be taken into consideration. If it proves to be true my plan is to include multiple shorts by the same author, so that we can discus him as well. This will allow anons who don't want to read a whole novel to participate, while still allowing a depth of conversation.

==The White People== =

by Arthur Mache

E. F. Bleiler wrote that the narrative in the Green Book "is probably the finest single supernatural story of the century, perhaps in the literature", and Michael Dirda has stated: "If I were to list the greatest supernatural short stories of all time, I would start with Arthur Machen’s 'The White People,' about a young girl’s unknowing initiation into an ancient, otherworldly cult." S. T. Joshi has called the diary "a masterpiece of indirection, a Lovecraft plot told by James Joyce", and H. P. Lovecraft himself wrote that "Machen's narrative, a triumph of skilful selectiveness and restraint, accumulates enormous power as it flows on in a stream of innocent childish prattle". I copied this off of Wikipedia, since I don't want to give away to much. I'm going to read it again before I write what I think.

RULES

Use spoilers if what you say requires them.

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 No.15924

>>15832

thanks anon! ill probably finish by tomorrow or so. my problem with book clubs is that i never have the money to buy each and every book and theres no library nearby

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 No.16015

I liked the dialogue at the start. It sells the theme of the story fairly well. The two characters – the curio and his intrigued companion – are a lot like Holmes and Watson.

It's quite a chore to read through the contents of the green book. It is after all designed to disorient the reader, and in the story, hide the girl's secrets. Later I reread it and the various fairy tales she meanders off into show similarities with the behavior of the girl and the nurse.

I found the ending unsatisfying. The character at the start who was so talkative before is now tight lipped; he knows the statue is involved, that it acts similar to (or is) alchemy, and thinks it's dangerous enough to destroy – but he won't say why. It would have been less annoying to me if he had only heard the girl died in front of the statue.

If I've grasped this right: the nurse is the white woman she first saw at the pond with the man who followed them (both cultists); the cultists all die sudden deaths (possibly due to the [figurative?] wine and bread); they are extraordinarily happy in immaterial ways but can't go back to a normal life; outsiders have died because of the cult and they've been persecuted/killed for this.

Other things: I don't know if the white faces and their language have any significance. I also don't know the bible very well so I'm not sure what the blindfold, when approaching the statue a second time, is a reference to. It's also not clear to me if she literally poisoned herself or if it's figurative.

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 No.16288

File: eddf9d8c98e33f3⋯.pdf (137.43 KB, UNTITLED #1.pdf)

FUCK JON PAUL SOT AND FUCK DISCORD TRANNIES

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 No.16359

>>16015

I agree, the moral discussion at the beginning set a tone that was heavy on philosophy and that's something that I enjoyed. It really gave way to the wrongness that supposedly would be perpetrated later in order to "truly sin". I thought reading through the girls thoughts was fine. the run on sentences were clearly for effect, to give it a rushed and somewhat naive feel. I think that I missed some references in the story, there was a reference to Adam and Eve late in the story that I'm assuming was comparing them to the white peoples introduction. I also wonder if white people has any racial connotation. It didn't seem so from the story but those kinds of things can be easy to miss. Overall I found it to be of high quality but more generally unsettling then frightening or dreadful.

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 No.16393

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 No.15926[Reply]

Recommend some good apathetic /lit/?

Something good so that if my eyes gloss over the words I'll get it. It's become my sole mode of reading now. I find I like urban apathetic; I'm open to other apathies, too.

English or German. I've already read Naked Lunch, American Psycho, and a handful of Bukowski. and I want to diversify to other authors before reading more of Bukowski et al.'s works.

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 No.15927

>Bukowski

You won't go too far wrong with one of Bukowski's recommendations. Check out some of Louis-Ferdinand Céline's novels.

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 No.16388

>>15926

The Stranger by Camus

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 No.16390

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Maybe you should try Houllebecq.

He writes about apathic old men who witness their dying society dwelving into vice and introspection. My only two problems with him is that sometimes he exagerates with the amount of sex and explicit descriptions (as a 24 yo I don't have half the libido and stamina of his 50 something protagonists) and, sometimes, he is a bit repetitive. But in general he delivers some very interesting reflexions about our modern society plus interesting depressive male characters who have achieved some sucess or prestige in their fields.

I've read Submission, where, besides what I've just described, he talks about how Islam can be seductive to european men and many interesting things about medieval literature. Elementary Particles, where he talks about mother-son relationship and what happened to old hippies and their offspring. And Plataform, which deals with sexual tourism (in a surprisingly positive way) and violence.

Plataform was the weakest of the three, but it was interesting to compare it with Submission, because it was written at the beginning of the century and it had a very different view of how Islam would develop itself throughout the world in the next decades: in the book one of the characters says that Islam wouldn't last because it was incompatible with the hedonist life style spreading in the world. It's not focused on Islam, though.

I am waiting for Seratonin to be released in my country this month.

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 No.16316[Reply]

I'm currently reading "The Blank Slate: A Modern Denial of Human Nature" from Steven Pinker.

It was published on 2002, so is it still worth reading today? Is it scientifically dated? Any better book on human genetic/biological determinsm of human nature, race realism etc?

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 No.16368

>>16340

Fuck bagel and his ubergeist.

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 No.16369

>>16316

>needing a book to acknoledge what anyone can see with its bare eyes

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 No.16371

>>16317

>he despises Hegel

That's not a reason to call him an idiot.

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 No.16372

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 No.16383

>>16371

Good as any

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 No.16381[Reply]

Life is Hell for most, Purgatory for some, Heaven for none.

This man's works are great. They thoroughly go over the bleaker aspects of our existence. Anyone heard of him? Thoughts?

also check out my board >>>/blucaf/

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 No.16416

>>16381

what books would you recommend?

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 No.16379[Reply]

For any of you faggots who are interested in pointless, escapist fiction. i created a board just for you. shit post about your cringy series all you want.

http://jthnx5wyvjvzsxtu.onion/sffg/index.html

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 No.16380

>>16379

Why? There isn't even enough activity on here for a scifi thread.

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 No.16314[Reply]

http://pastebin.com/twkVs3r0

Anyone wanna give feedback on my creative writing?

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 No.16391

>>16389

Why what?

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 No.16397

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 No.16400

>>16397

Are you asking me why the protagonist is gay or why I am not?

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 No.16405

>>16314

>gay fan-fiction with tween level prose and sub-par story

>posts a pen-name (or real name)

Oh shit nigga, what the fuck are you doing.

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 No.16407

>>16405

It's just a story I never said it's Shakespeare

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 No.16237[Reply]

I've been wanting to read these two books for a while now, and I was wondering if anyone else has read them to.

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 No.16274

I read some of it. But I'm more decelerationist Linkola/Camette gang so id suggest it's a better path to go.

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 No.16376

I read #ACC and it is good. A bunch of essays covering all the basics.

Tried the CCRU one, but tbh it's all just too weird for me.

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 No.15851[Reply]

if people were deprived of individuality and ambition, the world could become a better place. There could be a world government that he

would provideto the world of stability. People would be happy without ever wanting something they could not get. Having a similar worldview and mentality, ride

the same cars, living in the same homes or apartments, having the same entertainment, living in a state of blissful ignorance about

passions and strong emotions could be so conditioned that they would practically be unable to act otherwise than they should.

When reading the book "Brave New World ", I always wonder: what exactly is wrong with the world described there? Wars, hunger and diseases have stopped.

Social hierarchy still exists, but those at the bottom are genetically designed so that they do not bother them, they even enjoy what they are. Blessed soma

it is enough for everyone, there is a joyful consumption and freedom of manners. Few visionaries get deported, but so what? New ideas, books or inventions

they would only destroy the previous harmony built with such difficulty. It does not sound like an dystopia, rather the opposite of dystopia.

If our goal is universal happiness and security, the individual's freedom seems to be a temporary, unsuccessful experiment that is an obstacle to his reached.

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 No.15971

Lol did you keep word wrap on

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 No.16293

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>If our goal is universal happiness and security

The entire point of this book is that it challenges this very goal.

The utopian projects of the modernist experiment have all been criticized because 'they don't work/are impossible'.

Here Huxley shows it to you, and it's shown for what it really is.

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 No.16295

I think in BNW people are engineered to be happy with their situation, it is only the few errors in the system that rebel (the protag, who turned out ugly even if being of higher caste, the other guy, who is so perfect that got uninterested in sex and soma, thus bored with society, and the Savage, who grew up with religious shame of pleasure).

The thing is, in real life, we are all errors in the system. We all have our little particularities and neurosis, we would never become that homogenous society if a BNW-like system was imposed on us. It doesn't matter what kind of social engeneering "our chinese overlords" come up with, without pre-manufecturing peoples very core, to a biological level, their perfect society would never work. I mean, people could conform, as they do in totalitarian regimes in the real world, but only to a superficial degree. It wouldn't be the perfect society described in the book.

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 No.16350

>>15851

Mr. Huxley is right about his theories, but Jews decided to use it as a handbook.

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 No.16351

File: 1f539f7938a22f0⋯.pdf (638.6 KB, 4dcca84c10c7515a25edb8cd39….pdf)

Btw read this it's just six pages. Foucauldian interpretation of Huxley's work

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 No.16341[Reply]

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 No.16342

Shit. Very very simple from the start. I know its only a short story, but you should take more time to describe the setting, develop stronger characters, etc.

Keep practicing though, you'll definetely imptove.

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 No.15394[Reply]

>uhh??? no ebik quips? no flashy capeshit battles? no regurgitated pop culture tropes from the past 20+ years? yeah, no thanks

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 No.15734

>>15731

Cuckchan.

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 No.15737

>>15734

9gag.

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 No.15742

>>15722

I've known a few nice Karens

but the rest of your assesment is correct even as an American myself. our women are absolute crap.

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 No.15765

>>15714

>because being a spy is cool

Oh o-ok. I thought it was one of the dirtiest, unrewarding, suicidal, stressfully boring jobs of all time. Where do I sign up for the James Bond masterclass, Karen? FBI guy hook me up pls.

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 No.16332

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Obsessing over people you know are inferior to you seems like a meaningless endeavor. It's also cheap. Did you actually break down his post in any meaningful way? No. Which is why his post isn't even wrong, but yours is.

His review is fine. He's literally challenging people to change his mind, which implies he knows what he's doing. What have you achieved however?

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 No.16331[Reply]

Is The Weather Vane by Gedalia Gershon the finest novel ever written? Why is the answer yes?

Why did they create that stupid Honk Honkler meme based on the cover of this book?

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 No.14438[Reply]

recommend me cool podcasts that talk about literature. It doesn't have to be the main topic of the podcast as long as it's brought up often.

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 No.14694

>>14691

Is he still going or is it going to be a biannual event when he releases a podcast?

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 No.14696

Bookworm with Michael Silverblatt is alright. Basically what you'd expect from an NPR Jew.

I'm not sure if they still do it but Lapham's Quarterly had a podcast that was great, covering history and literature in a way only the truly erudite can.

New Yorker has some podcasts about books, but it's about what you would expect from a New Yorker Jew.

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 No.16249

if you're familiar with everybody up until Hegel, half hour Hegel is pretty good. sadler mostly just talks, although he writes some important stuff to drive home certain points so listen carefully.

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 No.16328

>>14438

i love that guy but his podcast is paywalled

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 No.16329

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 No.16299[Reply]

This is a dead board. Hello there!

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 No.16300

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I dont think this one will work, and i dont know why but whatever. Here

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 No.16301

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>>16300

>>16299

Jee check out of these DUBS nibba hehe

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