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The Sunflower Project aims to create an environment for esoteric study and development by gathering skillful persons, with no regard for ideologies or opinions

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087d00  No.1[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Welcome to the Sunflower!

This board is for the discussion and organization of ascension and enlightenment related activities.

Board rules

1. Stay on topic

2. Start a new thread only if a related one doesn't exist, or if it has reached bump limit

3. Anime/manga images may spice up a discussion, but keep it decent

4. Trolling or derailing with ill intent is not allowed

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087d00  No.619

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>>618

We don't do oats here, this place is strictly rye.

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15b5f5  No.10[Reply]

Share useful documents, links and videos.

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aa7f54  No.523

>>519

I have to admit there was a time when I seriously reconsidered my sexuality because of this, since I can easily “taste” the energy of the people around me and didn't understand what I was feeling.

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2780e6  No.555

>>523

>reconsidered my sexuality

Technically you can reconsider your sexuality as much as you want for it doesn't really matter where or what to it's directed to, it's in essence misguided and wasted energy. Make no mistake, there is no "normal" sexuality when viewed from an enlightened perspective. It's senseless desire to be united with another being to become complete, therefore always searching and fixating outside of oneself and being eternally fragmented and trapped in duality. Only when you realize that you are complete onto yourself you can direct that sexual energy inwards and instead of wasting it you cultivate it and use it to evolve. In that case sexuality ceases to exist for it has finally found the one it was longing for, which is just yourself. Yang and Yin unite and become a perfectly balanced One. It is then when your "spirit" or "being" or "I am" takes over which is already complete. But as long as your sexual energy is still fixated outwards as sexuality, and as long as your soul and body still rule instead of your "being", it doesn't matter where you direct it and how you waste it. You can fap to shemales and corpses all I care for. Waste is waste. Mundanes care for "normal" hetero sexuality for reproduction purposes and upholding of traditional values and see sexuality as nothing more than biologic drives to procreation but that's a misguided view seen with blind eyes of the mortals. It's just that their soul longs to be complete and it happens that most men are more yang and most women are more yin, therefore they search for eachother and try to unite. But really anything is possible. For me, all I care for is the end game, the complete asexual state with no need for external. I believe I got a taste of that completeness before and it was the best thing I've ever felt but maybe I'm just deluding myself. My whole point is because you mention your sexuality I wanted to explain how I view it and why I think it doesn't matter.

Anyway, let's not spam the library thread with offtopic stuff much further. If you wanna talk about loosh farming or whatever let's go into another thread.

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15b5f5  No.602

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Body and Mature Behavior: A Study of Anxiety, Sex, Gravitation, and Learning

http://libgen.is/book/index.php?md5=1044E047BF02F184636CA7BE7C1C5A4F

The Elusive Obvious The Convergence of Movement, Neuroplasticity, and Health

http://libgen.is/book/index.php?md5=61211038DAB7A3D297AC8D6BB007FB3C

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abb797  No.752

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17ecb5  No.384[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

This thread will be dedicated to the practical learning of basic esoteric skills.

As it seems people inexperienced with the occult are now finding this board, it is necessary to provide help towards the development of a stable foundation in their practice. Since occult theory is discussed to great lengths in other threads, we require a place of practice.

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c6cf97  No.591

>>514

This analysis is pretty accurate. Keep an eye on current events to see it unfold.

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5c1a82  No.672

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Fuck magians and mundanes

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bfd648  No.675

Poppy's album "I Disagree" in one go from start to finish

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bfd648  No.747

>>515

I again. I hope you’re still checking this thread from time to time.

Where would vital energy fit in all of this (“qi”, “prana”…)?

Are you going to make more posts in this thread?

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d70442  No.751

>>514

Succubus Collective?

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3ddf22  No.744[Reply]

Are the magic circles necessary? Most texts say they are, but some (such as An Excellent Booke of the Arte of Magicke by Humphrey Gilbert and John Davis) don't mention them at all, while one even says that an imaginary circle can be used (A discoverie of witchcraft - the 1665 edition).

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aae732  No.746

File: c50f443a739e830⋯.pdf (3.99 MB, William_Kiesel_Magic_Circl….pdf)

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3ddf22  No.749

>>746

Judging from this text they're absolutely necessary. Which makes me wonder why some grimoires fail to mention their use. Can they be dispenses with once you have a working relationship with a spirit and have their seal, sign, and contract in your Liber Spirituum? Or should they be used on every summoning?

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3ddf22  No.750

One thing I forgot to ask - is there any 'universal' magic circle that can be used for many spirits? Or do the circle designs need to vary depending on who you are summoning?

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e2b446  No.710[Reply]

I thought this was a generic spirituality board but lurking here for few days gives me the idea that this is more like a cult/movement based board. Can someone clarify?

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5ebc54  No.712

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>>710

The Sunflower Project is a think tank/meta coven for elite occultists. We aim to gather the most skilled individuals with no regard for opinions or ideologies. A technocratic witchcraft study circle so to speak.

We've built an astral meeting place to be used as a hub for exchanges, see

>>3

and

>>97

for a better understanding.

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203a15  No.714

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>>712

Sounds like a huge ERP tbh famalam. I too used to be part of these sort of le astral/psionic warriors meme back when I was 13 or 12 in sites like psipog,net, shifted perspectives, mytelekinesis, etc…(Sigh… good times tbh, I wonder if people still remember these sites) until I realized all of it was ERP.

Not being rude or antagonistic or anything, just telling what's in my mind. Well I guess, thanks for clarifying my doubts anon.

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2a42fc  No.742

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>>712

>elite occultists

LOL

The fuck am I doing here then

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88ece2  No.748

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>>742

Blood sacrifices are an essential part. Rejoice o selfless one!

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f082c2  No.745[Reply]

Would it be possible for a human/human soul to become a spirit after death? By spirit I am referring to the kind that are summoned, bound, and constrained by magi. I was thinking that perhaps this would be possible with a boon from one of the many grimoire spirits? Granted, I've yet to summon my first spirit. So I have no idea if this is possible or not.

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673ce2  No.2[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Talk about your practice and related topics in a relaxed manner!

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c54f50  No.733

Yall must be pretty privileged to believe in this stuff. Just got out of the court room. Some asshole dad football spiked his newborn.

No god or demon can account for days like this.

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a3c4a2  No.735

>>733

Watch mindandmagick

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673ce2  No.736

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>>732

>I placed a wand with a different version of the vampire spell on the Temple. Normally I'd give any unique insight over vampirism or any component related to vampirism with Alissa, but she can't understand it.

I just recently did something similar on my own, relating to my own personal development. Like, very recently. I examined the wand but I can't use this either, it's touching me and providing a quick cleanse but after that I can't activate it.

I contacted Alissa and made a version of my own understanding of this in cooperation with her. For sharability we formed this into a pearl. It's semi seethrough, pink with a hint of orange and a white glare. To not clutter the table I placed both the pearl and your wand in the cabinet by the "back" of the room where some other things were already being stored.

Going by what I know so far, this same type of thing was taught at Japari Park during a ritual at my last visit, their version of it.

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5b3415  No.741

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>>736

I'll be calling that particular area the study room. I can't completely grasp the pink pearl, but I see it as missing the level of virtue. Without virtue the spell wouldn't be able to be completed.

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c54f50  No.743

ഽhovt ovt to my boy Glaഽya-Labolaഽ. He haĦ tavght me how to writt like how it be vpon ഽhakeഽpeare'ഽ tombe. Whome knownĦ that svmmoning daemons wovld fix problemഽ.

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da0b03  No.97[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Refer to the temple thread for instructions on how to access the meeting room:

>>3

We will be starting this with two 20 min slots weekly, one for visiting Japari Park and one for Gensokyo. This means you can, in your own time, schedule these two 20 min sessions anytime during the week, and using the time difference removing crystal all participants will meet at the same time anyway.

Use this thread to discuss the sessions.

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6c4b1b  No.723

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There was too much text and I already shorted it as best as I could without rewriting the whole thing. To the pastebin it goes.

http://pastebin.com/gFtTEikX

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da0b03  No.737

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Gensokyo 28/3 2020

I arrive directly to the clearing in the forest. The trees look more ancient and realistic than before, also darker. I am picked up by Flandre and Tewi who lead me to a place with two small cottages. They dress me up as Marisa and ask me to watch the fire which is burning in the yard between the two cottages. I see some kind of tool inside the fire but can't understand what it is. It looks a bit like a hayfork. I enter a state of trance as a result of staring into the fire and strange scenes appear in my mind, of a nature which makes it impossible for me to retell them using language. I now understand the meaning of the hayfork and its magic is formed in my mind. It appears as a dark red tattoo of a hayfork with two points aimed downwards, placed below my navel. Reimu leads me back to the clearing and the session is over.

Japari Park 29/3 2020

Serval leads me into a large cave which is sealed with two large round, flat stones which are rolled to the right. We pass an outer cave before entering the inner cave. While there we perform a ritual by forming a circuit with me (Snowcat), Serval and Margay. At a later time, Snow Leopard joins along with someone with red fur I do not recognize, possibly a kind of raccoon. I get to learn a kind magic through this. The ritual keeps going for a long time.

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da0b03  No.738

>>723

Your experiences of the worlds match mine very well, while your sharings are much more detailed.

I did my last two visits late at night and almost fell asleep during the visits, but I feel this was intended going by the nature of the things I took part in. Both experiences seemed to make use of ancient methods to enter a trance used by natives and shamans, where dancing and monotonous drumming is used to enter a collective trance.

Actually dozing off isn't a problem for the session itself but may make it hard to remember it later. In this case the visuals turned rudimentary at best. It was indeed a spiritual or occult experience, quite unlike previous visits.

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6c4b1b  No.739

>>422

I know this is a relatively old post, but the difference between "suki" and "ai" are like the difference between love and infatuation in english. It's said that even old married couples might not use "ai" out of embarrassment over how deep of a passion the word represents. Japanese relies more heavily on context to derive meaning from words so suki can be easily translated into love, especially when it's used in a confession.

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2da4d3  No.740

>>739

I blame English. Other languages don't have this problem. Like Spanish ("suki" = "querer", "ai" = "amar", but "koi" = ?)

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bab5b9  No.734[Reply]

I was wondering if there are places hidden on the physical where magic is openly practiced and studied? If such a place exists I would be very interested to find it so I may learn more directly. Currently, my power level is fairly low so the actual barrier to entry could not be that high. (I currently can't really even see the astral all that much) I live in the USA currently so if someplace exists there that would be best but I am open to other places. I really want to learn more/better magic but I just feel so inadequate on my own and feel like something like this might be the best way to improve myself.

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0b24c4  No.698[Reply]

Can I cuddle with my waifu if I learn to lucid dream?

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71b6db  No.724

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Yes. Anything.

>write down your dreams starting now

>write in keywords only, short and precise

>write anything you can remember, if you remember very old dreams

>after waking up, write what happened in the recent dream immediately

Just woke up?

>write/type what you remember

>or record yourself with your phone - write it down later

One trick to not forgetting is to not open your eyes immediately,

Try to remember the dream in bite-sized keywords.

Open only one eye, find your note or phone

Record, write, or type the keywords down.

>read the dreams, old or recent ones

>go back to sleep but try not to sleep

>eyes closed but focused and awake.

>no body movement, no scratching

Be comfortable enough, don't put pillows over your chest.

After a while

>pic related. dark -> light

>hear weird noises similar to a marketplace ambient noise

>feel flushing or floating/rocking

>but suddenly it's total darkness again

>you can feel your body, and hear your surroundings too

You are now in sleep paralysis. Don't panic.

If you've ever been in one, you either proceed to wake up or continue.

>continue?

>imagine a candle, a flame, a vintage bulb, or lamp.

>light source must come from you.

>congratulations, you did it. a place where you have total control than would dream/reality.

Try to wake up the same way you do when in Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

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5bc378  No.725

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What are the spiritual reasons for wanting the ability to lucid dream? AP is logical but lucid dreaming is just playing in your imagination like you can while awake but more vivid.

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b394af  No.728

>>725

>lucid dream

>AP

>just playing in your imagination

>like you can while awake

The four are literally the same thing.

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5bc378  No.729

>>728

If you want to be anal about it then yes technically they are the same thing. What I was getting at is that lucid dreaming is mostly you interacting with just yourself in your own little place on the astral, while AP you also interact with other entities and things that aren't created by yourself. While every one of these things take place on the astral it's all with different purposes but with this in mind I can't see a gain from lucid dreaming.

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2ce972  No.731

>>729

Introspection. But no one actually uses it for that.

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597fe9  No.697[Reply]

Any faggot in here who can't convince himself to believe in any of those paranormal schizo shit but want some form of spirituality to cope?

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ae67d3  No.700

>>697

Why would you try to convince yourself? That’s dumb.

Do magic and see impossible coincidences pile up until you have no option but believe. You might even get to see a poltergeist of some kind.

Don’t believe in anything without first hand experience anon. Cmon you’re going to make it.

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8a50a1  No.702

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Perhaps you're doing it for the wrong reasons. If you try to force yourself because the idea of death scares you, then I don't think you'll get very far. On the other hand if you try because you can't stand the emptiness of boring mundane life and want to believe there has to be more then that's a good sign.

>>700

Also this.

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b02b55  No.704

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Purely spiritual thoughts can be translated and justified into near pure materialistic reasoning. Instead of focusing on mastery of non-physical forces, focus on mastery of your surroundings and of your own desires. If you don't know what any of those things are, what they look like, how they affect the world, then use your depression for something useful and think about it. Not having enough energy to act isn't the same as not having enough energy to not think. However, /sunflower/ isn't a good place for trying to find materialistically adaptable viewpoints in my opinion.

I'd suggest this blog as a start, but I've truthfully haven't given the your problem the consideration it needs, and haven't researched any topics related to it with direct intention of learning more about non-spiritual modes of thinking.

http://trueataraxiaradio.wordpress.com/

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a614af  No.720

>>702

Its former tbh, death never scared me.

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a614af  No.721

>>702

Oops I meant its the latter, not the former.

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d50bbb  No.261[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

I don't know where to begin and I am not even sure I know the right questions to ask… I should probably back up… I am coming from the Q and /pol/ (now /pnd/) boards. I enjoy the study of the way the world works and those places provided me with much knowledge but I feel as if I have hit a wall both in my research and my life. I have spent my time studying the political and psychological elements of the world and never given much thought to the metaphysical simply walling it off as unknowable with our current technology, but it has become clear to me that there are metaphysical elements to the fight that is going on behind the scenes and that I must study the metaphysical to find the answers I seek. The problem is I have absolutely no knowledge of this subject and there are many risks involved with it. I have stayed agnostic until now because of the unknown risks to the soul (if it even exists) but without taking that risk I feel I can go no farther. The extent of my experience is I have been to a medium once or twice in my life, had a passing interest in ghost hunting in my teens (never actually went out and did it) and owned some tarot cards at one point. (don't think I ever actually used them) That is about it.

After browsing through the threads of this forum I believe I can find at least some knowledge here. From what I think I have been able to decipher you have some kind of meeting room accessed via out of body experiences, a large number of posters are part of something called the "Succubus Collective" and there are at least 2 different types of vampire one of them related to the cabal mentioned by Q but that is about all I have been able to decipher. I am at the stage where I don't even know what I don't know so almost any beginner level resource would be helpful, particularly some kind of resource listing the various methods of the metaphysical,(That actually work. There is so much trash out there.) what they offer and what they cost. It would help point me in the right direction.

I feel like I am going insane for even posting this like I have chased the rabbit too far down the hole. I feel like I might be making a mistake in ignorance but I want to know. For all I know this board is an elaborate LARP and I actually have lost it, but making a fool of myself could be the least of the troublPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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1b74f7  No.653

>>651

Try eastern religions for reference. There's a kundalini book and the main book of Falun Gong, Zhuan Falun, posted in the library thread.

If you want to start with something more light weight to get a feel for it, try Tao Te Ching.

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de316f  No.681

>>652

>>653

Apologies for the late reply, thanks for the suggestions though. For a while, I've figured I may have to abandon the so-called "heavy use of labels" in order to truly delve into this. To me it's clear that mainstream and mundane understandings of things are totally misguided and fallacious. I've thought more about sucking it up and just digging for some sort of "prisca theologia" out of esoteric knowledge, regardless of its author's paradigm (although preferably within systems I like more). I recall from back in my fundie Protestant days a statement I once read by John Calvin (I think) against the Anabaptists who argued that Catholic baptisms were invalid because Catholics were heretics, where he stated something to the effect of "Baptism, though it may be administered by the devil, is every bit as valid if it is still done in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit." While I'm no longer a Christian by any means, I think the same sort of principle probably applies here, where even if it comes from an enemy, wisdom is wisdom nonetheless. I've become less dogmatic about it, that's for sure, yet I'm still going to try to avoid learning from their systems for the time being, just as a matter of principle; especially with the Ritual Abuse (although I'm uncertain if it's truly "satanic" or if it's something else, I just know it happens) done by the elite, I'd prefer not to follow them.

In any case, one thing I've been interested in for a long time is spirit communication. Are there any particularly good reads regarding how to summon or channel spirits I should look into? That's something that's fascinated me for a while.

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0e43eb  No.686

>>681

>mainstream and mundane understandings of things are totally misguided and fallacious

Yes. You have no idea. From personal experience I can tell you that even if you know this, don't dive too fast into the rabbit hole because what passes for values and morals for most of us have nothing to do with how the universe and the spirit world at large actually is. You need to step into a literal alien mindset as you progress with this, and if you go too fast the shock can be detrimental to your progress.

>any particularly good reads regarding how to summon or channel spirits

Besides what you can find on your own, reading one of the Seth books and the first half of the Law of One material (free online) will give you insight into what channeling looks like.

That said, there's a lot of smoke and mirrors in channeling. Don't believe everything even if the spirits themselves believe it.

Watching Bashar videos might be useful too. As for the techniques themselves, almost any new age how-to book will do. Bear in mind the people who write those books are usually prey to deceitful or deluded spirits, but that's a separate issue.

There's a small segment in The Magus of Java that sheds some light into channeling and spirit communication as well. The book is very interesting in general, too.

Runesoup has premium ($10/mo) courses about ancestor worship, saints and grimoire magic, all dealing with evocation in a different way. I know there's plans of an angels (I assume Enochian) course, too.

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0e43eb  No.687

>>681

http://mega.nz/#!9MgVDDIZ!yt9lkw9jF1CjFFr9cf17fvKDO7tjGGOBwTwvIJHrJws

This book might help with spirit communication and everything in general regarding spiritual practice.

Also quareia.com

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de316f  No.695

>>687

>>686

Thanks again for the suggestions, much appreciated.

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08efcf  No.533[Reply]

Starting out some novices may find it easier to channel their spirit companions than to communicate directly through the astral. This thread is for the discussion of exercises that improve one's ability to channel spirits.

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f5eeba  No.662

Does anyone know any lower effort methods of communication? I have done auto writing before but this method seems to be hard on the spirit. While telepathy would be preferred I am simply not at the skill level yet where this is viable and need a method of communicating that will allow me to speak directly with them to help speed my growth.

One method I have seen around is using a pendilum but I know literally nothing about this but it seems like what I might be looking for.

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c087d6  No.29[Reply]

Let's master the art of alchemy and become perfected immortals! The first step in my quest to become the Supreme Goddess!

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c087d6  No.30

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c087d6  No.31

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9abacb  No.650

>>29

Have you begun to make, or already made, the philosopher's stone? I've skimmed the text and, if it's true, it could be a gateway to our wildest dreams.

Something I believe is important to remember is, here in this universe, nature has its own laws which cannot be broken except with considerable effort / attainment. I believe that to work with nature is an important leg of the journey into attainment. After a certain point, it may be possible to break free from certain laws, and exist as we like. So I would suggest not proceeding impatiently. All good things in time.

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